diesel heating oil

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by kissmybrass, Aug 18, 2025.

  1. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    i keep hearing about low fuel prices. 4.20 a gal is not my idea of low. as winter creeps up on ak even .25 a gal makes a difference when you need 500 gal. is it high down there too? does any place have ' low' fuel prices?
     
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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Here in North Idaho, I paid $3.19 a gallon for regular gas at Costco (about the cheapest) last Friday. It was, believe it or not, about $2.20-$2.50 (maybe less, seem to remember $2.12 but that might be wishful thinking :) ) right before Biden got elected and shot up almost overnight after election to a little over $4-$4.20 or so... I've no idea what heating oil costs here or current price of gas or diesel. I will update when wife gets home as she has the Costco app.
     
  3. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Haven't you learned that EVERYTHING is more expensive in Alaska?
     
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  4. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    im still fantasizing about 2.20 a gal heating oil,,,,like last time trump was pres..
    as my mom always said, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up.
     
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  5. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator


    Buc-ee's - 6201 Gulf Fwy - Texas City, TX - GasBuddy.com

    Diesel $2.74 a gallon at Buc-ees [ Aug 18th 2025 ]

    yall gotta move to Texas tho
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2025
  6. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Not any more. I think all heating oil is supposed to be ultra low sulfur now.
    Thank the EPA.
    The ULSD sulfur removal process adds at least quarters to the price of each gallon.
    According to the EPA switching to ULSD is only supposed add 8 to 12 cents per gallon, but that seems completely out of touch with reality, that's got to be the on paper, in a perfect world scenario. Or they just made it up.
    I think Alaska was the last state to switch heating oil to ULSD, here within the last year or 2.
     
  7. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    thats actually good news. our gas prices go up in spring, summer to gouge tourists and locals then fall back sept/oct. heating oil is consistently .50 a gal less then pump diesel. my fear was staying at 4.20. while i dont expect 2.74 at the pump,,,, 3.50 pump would be huge.
    if im cold i can bundle up,,, if im hot eventually im naked. trust me no one wants to see that.
    70 outside means 85 in the connex. i miss my long underwear. i also understand no gal is going to prance around half naked at 60. beg, barter just wont matter. crank it up to 80 you dont even have to ask!
     
  8. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    il look into that. i know my truck runs fine on it. seward ak adds .25 a gal tax for pump price. just because they can.
     
  9. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I’d think off-road fuel would be cheaper by .30 to .50 cents a gallon depending on which state you’re in.
     
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  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Several layers of diesel taxes may apply in Seward, Alaska:
    Federal Excise Tax: This is currently $0.244 per gallon.
    State Excise Tax: For diesel purchased for highway use, the state excise tax is $0.08 per gallon.
    Refined Fuel Surcharge: A fee of $0.0095 per gallon applies to refined fuel sold, transferred, or used in Alaska.
    Local Sales Tax: Seward has a 4% sales tax, and the Borough of Seward has an additional 3% sales tax.
     
  11. Polecat

    Polecat Monkey

    Yeah, that's what I heated part of the shack with last winter.

    I don't know if I'll have it ready in time for this winter, but I was given one of those old pot-oil heaters from the 1950s. The kind that have a carburetor in the back that meters heating oil into a burn pot via gravity feed. I am pretty sure that I can remove that carburetor and replace it with one of those little metered lift pumps like they use on the diesel cab heaters, and program an ESP32 unit to meter it based on temperature and cut it off if it detects that the flame went out.

    The goal being to be able to run it on used motor oil cut 10-15% with E85. If I can get that working, it should be basically free heat and a lot less work (and mess) than splitting wood. Until it burns the shack down, I guess heh.

    I don't know if a mix like that would work in a newer fuel oil burner or not. I am sure that if you have pressure nozzles into a burn chamber and not just a drip feed into a big pot, that you'd have to filter that used motor oil mix a lot, but thinned with the ethanol I bet it would work other than the dirt plugging up the nozzles....
     
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  12. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    it's coming - the domestic drilling is underway - enough environmentalist bitching to be heard in space >>> prices would probably be at least 50c/gal cheaper if it weren't for the Israel-Iran fighting ......
     
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  13. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    I would mix kerosene depending on the price. Diesel is under three bucks a gallon here. Gas seems to be getting cheaper here.
     
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  14. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    ,,,,interesting avatar big ron. DaVinci's man in a torrid?
     
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  15. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    "I'll take 'Things that go boom' for $200, Alex."
     
  16. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Our burner (before it burned out) did very well on used oil strained through a shop rag and 1 pint of gasoline added to 5 gallons of used oil. We only added that for better cold starts.
     
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  17. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Back in the early 90s I had an oil burning furnace ,,, I would take 15-20 gallons of diesel out of my big rig and keep my oil tank filled up ,, never had a problem with it . Not sure if they've changed the formulas,, or the burner systems since then or not. They probably changed something,, they've always got to keep f'king with something ,, to say they're making it better for the environment.
     
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  18. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    when i was mashing maggots and not so fresh fish at the fish meal plant the whole plant ran on fish oil. we would dump totes of fish waste into a huge grinder and pump it into tanks ,, like 30' tall and 20' across then when all 3 tanks were full they would process it into fish meal. the oil was a by product,, i forget 10k or 20k buried tanks and the tanks were full. nightmarish horrible place to work. the slime line got fresh fish, the meal plant not so much.
    anyway you could get a herring quota and get enough tons to make oil and run your house, truck,genset. it would be alot of work but they have been doing it a long time on a industrial scale. the herring runs are 1/2 mile wide 1 mile long. i was jetsking by myself in march one time and found myself in one spawning. it looked like milk as far as you could see. eagles, gulls, ravens were standing on the rocks shoulder to shoulder feasting. folks still catch hooligan and just hang them to dry and they burn like candles.really stinky candles.
     
  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I started mixing a few percent used motor oil in with our fuel oil when I lived in Maine in the 1990s.
    Gun type atomizers appear to be able to burn high concentrations of used motor oil. The problem is keeping and getting used motor oil clean enough for an oil furnace pump.
    I'm retarded so I just soak fire wood in used motor oil.
     
  20. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    My dad had a 500+ gallon waterstove. I'd help cut,split and stack firewood,, he'd burn a fire about every 3 days in the winter for the heat, and hot water ,, but he would take newspaper pages , roll'em up,, stand'em up in a 5 gallon bucket, pour in a gallon of kerosene,,,then he'd stack the wood in the burner ,,stick 1 rolled up page in the middle of the wood,, lite it and leave,, worked everytime.
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2025
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