Collapse of Civilization - What to expect

wife and i are getting all our ducks in a row, wish it wasn't needed but we've been buying it cheap & stacking it deep for years now. will we weather the storm, don't know and can't see the future. probably missed something in our preps, holes needed to be plugged but we're doing the best we can with what we have in the time remaining. sorry only going to take care of our own sounds callus but we can't feed or protect the world. we won't turn away a hungry or abused child but not going to take care of the whole family either, sorry they need to suck it up, be in control of their life and fate, not up to me to take care of them. don't come to me demanding anything you won't like my answer !

 

Yes, the news gets closer and closer to reflecting the apocalyptic fiction I've read. Alas Babylon, Earth Abides, Lucifer's Hammer, Lights Out and others. All of them reminds me that civilized behavior is only skin deep and three days long. But these stories also remind me that a significant number of people are going to see the advantage of networking with like-minded survivors. My Zap novel conveys that approach.

 

Want to know what it will really look like?
DOORA - YouTube

'A long time to starve': How Sri Lanka went from booming to broke | Stuff.co.nz -- collapse in progress

As an aside, this is worth a look
This Mystery YouTuber Will Teach You More about the Soviet Union Than Your Professors - SpeakFreely (wespeakfreely.org)

 

I'd argue over drinks we are already at 8. Waiting on 9

 

I haven't lost faith in humanity pulling it together yet. After the 1st die off and before the golden horde I anticipate A LOT OF VIGILANTISM and that it will be extreme.

Rule of law doesn't protect the good people. Rule of law protects bad people from lynch mobs because we cede that authority to cops/courts/etc for good roads, schools, and a fear of being prosecuted by that same government we are supporting. WROL everybody the neighborhood feared will probably be shot from a distance or burned out if they can't find a purpose in the new community.

Will it be fair? Oh hell no! Ignorance, prejudice, and biases supported by our current culture will lead to untold murders of innocent and well meaning people.

I believe this will shake out into neighborhood independent bodies. Some teamwork will develop. Sharing will be mandatory but some sympathy for the young and aged. Labor for the common good will become mandatory. That asshole who argues everything at the home owner assn. meetings? Gone by whatever means needed. New leaders will be in absolute power. Ya gotta hope they're good ones.

These will fight for control amongst each other until the big hunger brings the Horde.
After the Horde (2nd dying), feudalism at its best and worst will prosper. As these grow together, I anticipate knight, barons, dukes, etc, to eventually lead to a king that forces them all under his rule.

Under a king, laws that promote productivity and defense will grow. Inefficient assholes will be fazed out. Liberty will peek out from the bunker.

We will start over.

My guesses, anyway.

 

I'm with you Zimmy, when it's WROL time there will be no more mr. nice guy. I go with the 3 S's (shoot, shovel & shut up), I'm not a violent person, honestly never killed anyone, but I'm not a fool either, when it's dog eat dog, i'll do what i have to do. I hope no one comes to my AO to burn/loot/hurt, wife and I would try to help others but can't help everyone or feed everyone, as you said about a 1st & 2nd die off, i hope to survive past them, but you never know. Don't wish it, but i see the writing on the wall, i said it on another thread, i have a real crystal ball but haven't figured how make it work, YET! I hope when the day comes, all the monkeys on here will weather the storm that's coming!

 

Pretty much how it's gone time after time through the eons. Rinse and repeat.

 

Who stands to profit through this disaster?
Usually, if the event is manmade there is a motivation that drives it usually money but with money loosing value what could be the driving force?

 

Like..... What we have now? Government has long lost the concept they are supposed to work FOR the public, not shear them like sheep.

 

I just watched Amerigedon.
Good flic.

 

Where did you see it?

 

If you want to read about "Power thru Government" after a major drawn-out social disruption, read Solzhenitzen's "Gulag Archipelago" He writes very graphically in places about how the old society of the Tsars collapsed and why and how the soviets managed to take control. Widespread violence, oppression, actual starvation in places, authoritarian controls of the cities and the countryside, hordes of people arrested for imaginary "crimes" against "The People" and put to work as slave laborers on huge projects. So yes, "The Power Of Government" aka "tyranny" can make things happen in a big way, but don't be surprised if you don't survive the changes.

 

"People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it"... -Tommy Lee Jones In "Men In Black"

 

For a good idea what things will look like, take a good long look at Venezuela.

 

Or Somalia or Haiti.

 

Both of those are a multigenerational collapse.

Self-inflicted stupidity.

 

My personal opinion concerning annexing other countries like Canada and Greenland and Venezuela and such is that they will not be any economic benefit to the US being socialist, what do they have to offer, except a liability.

 

Unfortunately laws that govern the misuse of natural resources people will ignore valuing their own survival over that of future generations, like dumping waste in rivers like they did back in the 1920s assuming the oceans will dilute the toxins as they did in the past, ignoring the current pollution levels. People are greedy and stupid.

 

Without effective regulation and accountability, it's easy for individuals and companies to prioritize short-term benefits over future generations.