17 year old boy tazered 12 times by cops

I disagree with calling him a child. Again, I was in the Army at 17 and armed by the government. You would be surprised at the size of some 17 year olds; and if you think this one could not possibly be a threat because of his age, think again.

Maybe the Culumbine shooters ought to be considered children who could have been restrained?

 

The Columbine students were armed and intent on murder, this kid was suffering a seizure and dissorientation. It is rediculous to try to draw a parallel. If this kid had simply been left alone and given a minute to recover the entire thing could have been avoided. If a drowning man struggles against his rescuer would you taze him too? Or would you back away and attempt to calm him down?

 

Lol I still think all tazers should be taken away from the police. Its just another thing for them to screw up. Maybe if they take some course on how to properly administer the juice could they use it again.

Its like having 3 safeties on a gun, They help when you dont really need them, but when you dont want them they screw you over BAAADDD

 

Intent has nothing to do with it. We are discussing age, and there IS a parallel. How you ask? A teenager can kill and the officer on the scene may not know his intent. With the information given, it would seem the officers did not know he was having a seizure.

If I had a motorist driving down the interstate having a seizure, would you not want me to use my car to physically remove him? Just being the devils advocate here....

I don't like the overuse of tasers either. Believe it or not, there are a lot of cops I don't care much for dispite my being one. You need not lump all of us into the same lot, please.

 

Officers carrying a taser must attend a course on its use as well as get tased themselves. I think there are some idiots wearing a badge, but I would not agree on painting all of us with the same brush.

I agree about pistol safeties...I don't like them either.

 

What is this garbage about a bicycle light law. Damn man nothing is off limits these days. Next well all be required to put warning lights on our head and a back up siren and maybe even government approved body pads just to walk on a public street. Who has all this freakin time on their hands to think up these stupid laws. John Adams just rolled over and sh!t in his grave after this. "land of the free" my arse. What are they Gonna start issuing a government mandated bicycle license and test similar to a driving test now? Little billy don't forget your bicycle light and your license. What if it's for car safety what's wrong with the factory reflectors that come on the damn bike! Uggggg


I liked it better when the government wasn't in the safety business and left it up to the individual to be responsible for their own well being. Damn were not even free to get hurt or die in an accident or from doing some stupid crap anymore!

 

Patriot- I agree the government should not protect people from themselves; such as the seatbelt law. I do believe the LOCAL government has the charge to protect the public from each other; an example would be not allowing a drivers license to someone with a history of reckless driving, or yanking a drunk driver off of the roadway.

What you ought to do is think of it like this: Is what this person doing on this public road putting me in danger? If yes, then he needs to controlled by the government. If not, then the government needs to butt out.

We have only one side of this incident concerning the bicyclist without the light. We do not know the whole story, and as such, we should not pass judgment. Let me relate this idea to you in this way. If you shot a burgular in your home four times and killed him, then your local anti-gun media got the story and made the healines read, 'BILLY-BOB MURDERS MAN WITH HANDGUN SHOOTING HIM 4 TIMES!!'......would you not want your side told as well?

Or in another situation: Say a trooper is pulling over all of the junk-salvaged-uninsured-untagged cars driven mostly by Mexicans. Then
Laraza finds out about it and accuses the Trooper of 'RACIAL PROFILING', despite the misdemeanors and infractions being comitted....then Laraza contacts the Media and claims this Trooper is pulling Mexican motorists over just because of their skin color. Would you not want the Trooper's side of the story given?

Just saying a person should look into anything from the media with suspicion and should find other sources on the report.

 

If you monkeys only knew the inside joke to that statement but unfortunately I'm not at liberty to discuss it! Good one Tack!

Well after a long passionate debate to the bike issue on the telephone you'll be glad to know Tack and I found some common ground on the issue although their were still some points that we just had to agree to disagree!

But that is what makes Tack such a good friend, we can disagree and not end up with hard feelings or killing each other!
Cheer's Bro!

Have another one for the road
(oops or maybe not)taser1

I repeat do not drink and drive,


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