1911s..... Railed or Non-Railed?

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Hispeedal2, Mar 18, 2011.


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  1. Rails- versatility rocks!

    8 vote(s)
    34.8%
  2. No Rails- Old School- I know how to handle a flashlight!

    15 vote(s)
    65.2%
  1. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    What is your opinion, railed or non-railed? I am about to pull the trigger on a Colt (more than likely, although, it changes almost daily). I can't decide. Versatility or the classic?
     
  2. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I've never had a 1911 with a rail and probably never will. I like them in their traditional manner. This is just my opinion coming from an ordinary average guy. [beer]
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2013
  3. Gray Wolf

    Gray Wolf Monkey+++

    I mostly don't like a flashlight on a weapon, unless it has a pressure switch so you can use it or not in an instant.
     
  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I like my Surefire X200 on a Glock 21. This is not a carry piece, it lives next to my bed.
     
  5. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Would it be safe to assume that you intend to use this for home self defense? Reason I say this, is because of your poll states "I know how to handle a flashlight"

    If so, then you might consider the rail but everybodies taste are different.

    How confident are you in holding a flashlight in the other hand?

    Myself, I'd rather have the other hand free for whatever reason. Kinda hard to be on the phone dialing 911 with a light in your hand because you might be by yourself. Just saying, pick a number of reasons to have the other hand free.

    My home self defense pistol is a Sig P220 with NS and rail and a Streamlight TLR-1 weapon mounted light. This bad boy puts out a blinding 160 lumens of LED light. I've yet to decide on getting the light with strobe feature.

    Hope this helps in your decision.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer


    Good points. I do run a M3X on a SIG P220. I could use that for bump in the night. Pretty much every imaginable pistol these days has a light rail. But like you CC, I have an eye for those original lines. Maybe I should shove practicality to the ground and call this one a "because I like it that way".

    Decisions, decisions...
     
  7. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    If it is not for self defense, then if it was me I would not get the rail. I do not think a 1911 looks right with a rail, reason for my previous statement. Hey man, I'm just a plumber who likes firearms, no expert here.
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2013
  8. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I have 7 1911's and none have a rail, so guess my answer! Ha! [booze]
     
  9. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    None of my slab sides are railed either. But, I do have an XD with a surefire light that I Love for bump in the night or for any night time activities. The rail mounted light frees up the other hand for opening gates, doors, holding the steering wheel on a dark country road while scoping out the bushes for ZOMBIES etc.
     
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Aside the 1911 aesthetics, l don't like a gun mounted light. Seems to me that just makes it pretty obvious where your center of mass is behind the bright spot. I really can see an advantage of one hand free, but I'm not going hunting in the house while I'm trying to dial the phone. Dialing out will be preliminary to clearing, or an after action report.

    Uv cuss, YMMV.
     
  11. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    All good points. I don't want to get into light tactics. There is a whole plethora (El Guapo) of information on this topic. I'd say that I am comfortable with both hand held or weapon mounted handgun lights.

    I am running over the new Colts and the XSEs and Rail Guns look superb. I still get drawn to the old Series 70s and Combat Elites too. A Combat Elite was my first 1911.
     
  12. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    If you are choosing the 1911 for it's functionality, I would say go with the rail just because added potential is never wasted...one never knows what one might want to add at some future date and the rail will not interfere with any current functionality.

    If you are choosing the 1911 for classic style and the look of the weapon, then you would obviously not want the rail marring that look.

    Look and style has never been even a minor criterion in selecting a weapon for me, so I said go with the rail.
     
  13. Legion489

    Legion489 Shining the Light of Truth

    Well other than do you really need ANOTHER thing hanging off your gun (go look at the photo somewhere on the board of the AR fitted with about fifty different gadgets. I really hate that photo as there is a Swiss Army knife mounted on the gun and I never thought of that, just one more d--n thing to buy now!), what are you using it for? Can you get a holster for it? Are you really going to hang a flash light off it or get one of those nifty bayonets? I mean really, you run out of ammo or it jams, what are you going to do, hand puppets? Or run over and stab him!
     
  14. Legion489

    Legion489 Shining the Light of Truth

    The photo is posted by Seacowboy in the Guns for SHTF thread.
     
  15. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Color me "old school", Saint Browning never intended a rail on his greatest invention.

    And if Homey comes in my crib late at night, it ain't Mr. Colt that will dance with him, it'll be Mr. Shotgun that sits by the bedside. I have enough LED-equipped gadgets around the house, there is a useable level of light at all times. "Center of mass", baby! Homey gets fitted for a pine box........

    Now, Mr.Shotgun DOES have a flashlight, so I do hedge my bets if Homey was smart enough to kill my house power.....
     
  16. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    I like rails -- for me it doesn't look right without rails.

    I like their functionality for what can be added and the possible future devices (only have one super-cheap rail-mounted light that's gonna have to go when I replace it with a good one).

    Most of y'all have been doing this a lot longer than me, so I understand not liking them -- my favorite car would still have a stick-shift.
     
  17. cool hand luke

    cool hand luke Monkey+

    I do t get the "pretty" gun thing. N guns are just a tool not an ornament so I'd get the raiL .l of course I can't ever see myself owning a 1911 anyway
     
  18. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I probably would not be dialing a phone either, just tossing out ideas for having a free hand is all. I apologize if the comment was not the most correct one to portray. I took the OP's occupation and training into account and figured he probably knew way more than myself on tactics and knew what my intentions were.
     
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    No problem. I simply stated what I have concluded over time and for my circumstances. Those that prefer rails and lights are more than welcome to use the techniques they choose. I don't have a lot of doors to open that would need the free hand, so I would handle the lighting differently, not necessarily better. Al almost certainly has more experience than I do, and his house could well be way different (as yours is likely to be.) Might not even be a concern of his, dunno. Anyway, tactics is off the topic a bit, my fault for leading things off the path.

    [beer]
     
  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    As with the "perfect" SHTF weapon etc. it all depends on what you will primarily use it for. I wouldn't have any use for a rail on my daily carry 1911. But my XD with the light I bought when I was working on the border in South Texas and the illegals would close a lease gate at night and wait for you to get out of your vehicle to car jack you. I wanted to be seen and I needed the free hand to open the gate or car door so stealth was not a consideration. That is my bedside weapon also and I like the fact that the light is instant on or not and it has the ability to blind an intruder, adding to your tactical advantage.

    So for the purpose of the poll and the OP I would have to say go with the rail. Why sacrifice the versatility. Use it if you need it and if you don't it isn't in the way. So it boils down to aesthetics.

    Or you could get one with and one without. Problem solved!!!
     
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