.22 lr Ammo, Why?

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Motomom34, Jul 13, 2016.

  1. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Today I went to Wal-mart and they had a sign, due to demand and shortage of .22lr ammo, they were limiting customers to 3 boxes each. I overhead a customer asking why was there no .22 ammo in the case. The sales associate said they had received some on Sunday and Monday and unsure when they would be getting more in. I almost asked the guy why he wanted it but I decided to ask you all.

    Often here on the Monkey I see people post threads on good .22lr ammo deals, sales and availability plus post the same in the shoutbox, why? I personally like the .22 plus I think there are many 22’s in homes in homes across America. Baseball, apple pie, Chevrolet and .22

    The reason I ask why is:

    Why is there a shortage? Did they cut down on production or are people consuming/stock piling more?

    Why do people want it so much? Most on here will say your EDC (everyday carry) should be of a caliber to take down a moose. And I have seen lots of opinions that the bigger the gun the better. So what are people doing with all this .22lr ammo?
  2. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    I think in my opinion is culture more then anything most every kid in America grew up learning to shoot 22lr, they most times in a rifle require no hearing protection. They are great small squirrel/ Sage rat guns. Where a young boy or girl can learn basics.
    I think that sticks with us as we grow up that this 22LR is cheap, easy to use very forgiving and is usually the first persons starting gun.
    I have a couple 22LR and a 17hmr . The 17HMR is way more accurate, faster bullet and will take on larger targets. That said the 22lr is more fun. And is also the almost always the firs exposure to semi-auto. Nothing like popping of a Ruger 10/22 with 25 in the magazine destroying a aluminum can. There is also nothing like shooting a AK-47 with 7.62x39 with 30 in the magazine and destroying a steel oil barrel. One cost 7.20 to empty out at .24x30rds = 7.20 or shooting 25 rounds at .06. yet to a kid its like shooting and Ak-47 the first time my son he was 12 shot a 357 Magnum, the grin on his face was priceless the first time he shot an AK-47 same thing. Yet going back shooting his Marlin 60 gave the same look. Many people swear over the 223/5/56 Rifle and it has a cult following so does the AK-47 7.62x39 and so does the 22LR round. I think the 22LR is allot more deadly then most understand. The 22LR bullet depending on HP/ or FMJ will bounce around inside your body tearing and shredding and taking bone chips with it. The 22LR is only not considered deadly enough because we have modern medicine, however take away the ability to get the ER, you wont last long unless you were shot in a non-vital area. If I came across a bear would I rather have a 40/45ACP/357 you betcha. But most times a person avoids crime even if target is missed or gun not fired. Often times criminals flee at the sign of a gun or once fired. A 22LR pistol makes a pretty loud noise and inexperienced ears wont know the difference just its a gun pointed them and it went bang. The E.R.'s says that more people come in with low caliber wounds then high caliber so someone is suing them as defense/offense. Long winded sorry. I see allot of hoarders and special treatment by department managers putting aside ammo for friends and family think this paranoia helps feed the gun industry supply and demand, the more we need the harder they make it to get so we will pay more and be appreciative when we get it.
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  3. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    The shortage is anywhere they sell at actual retail - $20-$25 a brick. Retired guys buy it all up then sell at much inflated prices through gun forums and other means. Places like Cabelas will have it at $35 and up a brick.

    It doesn't hurt that Obama and Hillary's rhetoric lately has caused another panic, one that is drying up all the entry AR-15s and any ammo.
  4. azrancher

    azrancher Monkey +++

    This is a very good question, nice boots, it happened after Sandy Hook, all ammo disappeared, .22 has remained in demand, probably because a .22 wasn't used at Sandy Hook, if there was really a shooting there...

    Got my tin foil hat on now.

    Oh and I have bought .22 for $.05/round, ends up being $.07 after shipping, Cabela's, Gander Mountain etc, then I discovered my Y2K stash and decided that I had enough, not selling at the flea market.

    Just ordered 9mm shot shells for the snakes.

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  5. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Around here it is always limited in most the stores, certainly Walmart, and sells as fast as they get it. Frankly, I don't consider it to be a high-priority and don't give it the attention of my other ammo needs... It's a good training round, it's fun and cheap. I doubt they will ever ban it...........did I really just say that?!?!?
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  6. Bishop

    Bishop Monkey+++

    because with the gun scare the ammo makers followed the gas and oil people. they can charge what they want some one will by it. they want and need it there is no reason 550 rounds of 22 lr should be more than 10$ but greed is greed. as for big cal guns shot placement is the key to dropping any thing where it stands when cops have a shooting and over a 180 rounds are shot thats not shot placement the most deadlyest thing on the battle field is a marine and his rifle and one well aimed round and no one likes a sniper until its time for sniper up.
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    My scheme to be come rich is to to start my own 22lr production line.
    Then my personal stash will be on the order of a grain silo.
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  8. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    The best all around cheapest survival ammo on the planet. It works in a pinch for just about anything. I have over 20,000 rounds of it. Why ???? because I COULD AFFORD IT. Unlike 30-06 at 19.99 a box for 20. My sole reason for testing the .22 rimfire as extensively as I did. Shooting deer heads, penetration tests etc. Small game, deer, even suppression fire in a defensive situation. A Ruger 10-22 can toss a lot of Mini mags out there 100 to 200 yards pretty accurately and keep someone engaged while a sniper picks them off with a bolt gun in 30-06. I cant afford to use up expensive center fire ammo for things like deer hunting , small game and suppression fire. THAT is why .22 is in demand. Its normally Cheap to stock lots of it. This leads to discussions on Logistics.
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  9. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    .22 is about the only ammo I use for most anything any more. Used to shoot a lot of high power, .308, 30-06, 12ga, but since a right shoulder injury 4 some years ago, I've stuck to the .22 or handguns that do not recoil directly against the shoulder.

    That's just me, but I probably own somewhere between 10 and 20k rounds and still buy some when I see it.

    Note: Shoulder injury was not related to riding a motorcycle and was my wife's fault. :rolleyes:
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  10. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Exactly. I have seen after shootings, almost empty shelves but for some reason the .22 shortage continues on. I understand that it is cheaper to practice with but I also wonder if many normal folks (not preppers/survivalists) are stocking up for defend their homes. Shotguns and .22's are IMO the gun one would most likely find in a home. I could be wrong but that is my thought.
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  11. azrancher

    azrancher Monkey +++

    Yes exactly, I have 3 .22's, 2 12 gauges, one of which is an "assault" shotgun with maglight , both loaded with #4 buck because I figured a .23" round would take down most intruders.... wanna come visit?

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  12. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    Heres a video I saw a few years ago, interestingly the same answers apply worth a view !

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  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I am going to do the right thing and sell off my 16 year old stock pile of 22lr for as much as possible.
  14. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    For those of us lucky enough to have a Bass Pro or Cableas near(I have both) we can buy based on the www.wikiarms.com email alerts for between 4¢-7¢/rnd and have ot shipped to the store and NOT pay shipping.
  15. rjburk

    rjburk Monkey

    sandy hook kicked it off and it has gotten a little better in last 6 months in my area.....Cabelas usually has a pretty good supply...in 2008 when the muslim got elected local WM's had bricks for 17 bucks and no limits....I would buy a brick or two every week and stockpiled plenty....Why so many other so called shooters did not stock up is beyond me ? and when they disappeared those same people were screaming Hoarders and Scalpers....LOL......no such thing when it comes to ammo....If you buy when it's available to you it is also available to the same people who did not buy any extra....sour grapes from a lot of whiners IMO....Raw Materials have also went up making prices go up.....when the demand went through the roof the makers were not prepared and scrambled to keep up....22 is still the most used ammo ever so what happened was no conspiracy....same thing has happened to Apple on IPhones....more sales than product....happens in a lot of businesses....A company called Polymer80.com recently started shipping a 80% Pistol lower that uses Glock parts, very easy to finish and build( I have one ) once these lowers started shipping Glock parts sold out everywhere fast....try to buy a stock G17 complete slide....some places are 6 months behind....no one imagined these lowers would sale so fast and the parts dried up almost overnight.....I had to piece together parts from several places to complete mine.....
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  16. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I was at Cabela's today and a 500 round brick of .22LR was priced from $65 to over $100. But, that was for match grade ammo and not just the plinking stuff.

    I believe that .22LR goes as fast as it does because there are a limited number of manufacturers, everybody and his brother owns a pistol, revolver or rifle that eats .22LR and the military purchases in huge blocks for training. It is a very versatile round, good for small game and to some extent, for defense.
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  17. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    This came in today @3 PM eastern. 7¢@Cabelas. Use the wikiarms email alerts.

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  18. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Absolutely no Thunderbolt at my store... Maybe available online? [winkthumb]
  19. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++


    This was from 3 PM EST today. I am on the east coast for a MIL tradeshow and dont have the time to monitor and post. M

    But if you sign up @wikiarms.com for 22 LR email alerts you will get these but youmhave to act fast 20 mins pr less to get in on the low price. M
  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I might have to signup for those email alerts to replace my 16-17 year old stock pile.
    Thunderbolt always ran good in my 10/22.
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