.223 vs 5.56

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by CATO, Jun 22, 2012.


  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    I think this guy has a different version--he's hardcore:


    wheelbarrow.
     
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  2. Pyrrhus

    Pyrrhus Monkey+++

    You do make a good point. A single shot .22 short is superior to either .223 or 5.56.
     
  3. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    That is because, of course, the 22LR is BADASS. [camo]
     
  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    One issue I did have 'the other way around' was in shooting commercial Winchester 45 grain 'Varmint' loads in my semiauto Bushmaster M17S Bullpup - itt would fire several times - slam-firing. All other .223Rem commercial ammo and all surplus 5.56 I tried worked fine. I suspect wery soft primers in the Varmint loads.
     
  5. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

  6. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I have been shooting 556 in my bolts rifles and Ar's never had a problem. Id imagine if you had a match grade chamber that was first off of the line and to the tightest tolerances and a 556 loaded a little warm round, and a very hot day, I could see pressure troubles.
    But if you got the last rifle off of the line, with a loose chamber because a chamber reamer just went through a couple thousand rifles before it and light load, you would never see an issue .
    Good topic and conversation .
     
  7. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    That AR came with a Wylde chamber which got me curious. RRA and others use a Wylde chamber. Essentially it is a tightly dimensioned 223 chamber with a longer throat. IMO, the Wylde's popularity is it allows optimal seating of 80 grain bullets. As my rifle shoots under a MOA with either ammunition so I am not complaining.
     
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  8. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    I usually don't throw hearsay into a fact-based mix of statements on a subject like this, but I long ago heard (25+ years ago) that the early versions of the Ruger Mini-14, though listed as chambered for 223 Rem., were deliberately bored "on the loose side" to more easily accomodate the 5.56mm cartridge dimensions. This could contribute to the "less accurate out of the box" reputation of the Mini-14, but doing something like that for safer presssure peaks and cartridge mixing convenience would be characteristic of how Bill Ruger did things.

    Ruger has probably long since updated their Mini-14 chambering selections to reflect the milspec option. I haven't checked--no dog in that fight--just my 2 pennies. YMMV
     
  9. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    That is interesting and would explain alot of my troubles I had with all of the mini 14's I owned in the past, I loved everything about the rifle except the inaccuracy.
     
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  10. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    "At an unspecified time in 2007 to 2008, Ruger added a heavier tapered barrel to the mini series. The heavier barrel had an overall larger diameter with the barrel visibly becoming thicker in the final inches as the barrel approaches the gas block from the muzzle. These changes combined with tighter tolerances result in greater potential accuracy.[5] The new mini-14 rifles are arguably capable of shooting under 2 MOA (Minute of angle) accuracy. The "target model" Mini-14 supposedly can shoot under 1 MOA."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14#Production_versions
    A heavier barrel redesigned for accuracy and tighter tolerances yielding 2 MOA as a result echoes your experiences.. ;)
     
  11. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    I mix mag too.. though I am top heavy on PMC. I love that ammo.
     
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