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30-30 blackout / wisper

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by oil pan 4, Mar 24, 2020 at 14:10.


  1. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I have a 94ae so it has 1:12 twist. Probably limited to 200gr bullets.
    The quiet 30-30 is a concept I considered around 20 years ago when I started reloading.
    Thought about loading up some heavy subs, then I saw the prices on heavy 30 cal bullets, they were all specialty or premium big game bullets. So I scaled back and just loaded up some cheap 124gr .311'' AK bullets on top of something like 7 or 8gr of unique.

    But now the 300bko is gaining popularity making cheap 220gr FMJs and plated bullets specifically designed for subsonic use available and at a typical plated bullet prices.
    I think I have a few hundred hornady 190gr match Spitzer bullets rolling around the reloading room that I never thought I would use. Could start there just lob them at paper to see if they hit sideways but I'm pretty sure they will fly straight.
     
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  2. sourdough145

    sourdough145 Tinker and thumb smasher...

    Love my 300blk... I use H4198 and Berry's 110gr 30 carbine plated bullets running at about 1300fps. They are tack driving good at 100yds and operate my pistol length gas system like a sewing machine. Load is posted on the web somewhere... Would go to the reloading shed and give my powder weight but it's raining/hailing like crazy and don't want to leave my nice warm easy chair to go out doors and get wet...
     
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  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    My Self and @v0lcom13sn0w were just taking about this idea a few weeks ago! Found a awesome supplier of hard cast and coated bullets for a really good price, just haven't had the chance to test them out! I was going to try various fillers to see which gave the best performance under the 220 grain bullets I have! another buddy has his Winny threaded for a can, so it will be super slick if this works!
     
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  4. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    please keep us all informed!
     
  5. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I was thinking H110, AA9 or AA7.
     
  6. sourdough145

    sourdough145 Tinker and thumb smasher...

    Well wandered out to shed and found I was using 15.5gr H4198 for my plinkers. Normally use Li'l Gun and VV120 for my 147 gr normal loads... 2025 fps +- 15fps and 1990 fps +- 10 (VV120 seems to meter real well for me). I use a pager vibrator on my powder feed to ensure it flows like water. Haven't tried anything heavier than 168 Palma style bullets. So far these powders have performed their duties very well. I save my Acurate#9 for my .357 lever action rifle. 1800 fps with 180 gr Hornady XTP hollow points (max load!!!). Never saw a round turn a big city phone book into confetti so fast... As always YMMV...
     
  7. sourdough145

    sourdough145 Tinker and thumb smasher...

    Actually I should have read closer, my bad. I'm just too into 300blk I guess... Though I do love my 94 lever a lot...
     
  8. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    I cast .303 bullets and size them for the 7.62x39. They make good subs for the AR. Harder cast is good but do go too hard or you can get leading just like being too soft. I just run a gas check so no worries.
     
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Ill post up the link later, but these hardcast plated have been really good so far
     
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  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I'm thinking start somewhere around 7 or 8 grains of H110 and hit super sonic by 11 or 12 grains.
     
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