4-Bore

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Seacowboys, Feb 7, 2010.


  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I picked up this cannon at a gunshow in Pensacola for $150.00. It is going to be my next project gun.
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  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Wow. Damn nice project for $150. What do you plan on doing for the ammo? Are there reloading dies for that baby?
     
  3. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Have you deciphered the Arabic script yet? I was trying to puzzle it out. Speaking it is a whole lot easier than reading it. I have a book somewhere that teaches how to write Arabic. I'll see if I can dig it up.

    The writing on the right is more formal, like a title. I would guess it to be the makers mark, something like; "The soemthing works" then the bottom line "Of something". The line on the left is a name, probably a city and state or country. The last part looks to have an I and end in N so I am thinking it says "some city, Spain". There are no numerals in it so it doesn't tell the caliber.
    If I can find that book I can get a better idea of what it says.
     
  4. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    It reads: "Made by Hajji Mumjahamja, circa 1909. -He always knew what he wanted to be when he blew up."
     
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  5. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Great buy, you bought Henry Bowman's rifle (Unintended Consequences).
     
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  6. Northwoods

    Northwoods Monkey+++

    sweeeet[gun]
     
  7. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    This is the best I could come up with. I'm sure it's way off.

    The Bank
    Of S(?)L (Sol maybe)

    K(?)bir(beer) ( maybe Kybeer,Kyber), Spain

    I'll send it to an Egyptian friend of mine and see if he can read it.
     
  8. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    My first thought, although Henry's rifle was from England.

    SEA, that is a very interesting project, I am curious to see where it takes you. Hopefully when you are through with it you will seek out the appropriate big game to use it on.
     
  9. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I haven't been able to find much history on them. I am curious about the Arabic inscription. I read that they were plentiful in Africa and India. Maybe it could have been made in Morrocco or some other North African muslim nation. After some more study I am doubting the "Spain". The only thing I can be sure of is "The" blank "Of" blank. I sent it off to a couple of Arab friends and am waiting to hear back from them.
    Strange that there is no date on it. I can read arabic numerals but there are none in the inscription. Letters are hard. It depends on the position in the word as to how they are written. You write a "T" one way if it starts a word, another if it is in the middle, and yet another if it ends the word. Damned hard lanquage to decipher.
     
  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Pretty sure "Allah" is the word in the upper right.
     
  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++


    Damn, you just ruined the whole book! JUST JOKING. I am only half way through the book and he has not bought a 4 bore yet.
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

  13. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

  14. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Theoretically if Henry was to buy a rifle that is, he mentioned early in the book something about them being made in England.
     
  15. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    May be, but it is in block form not cursive as is custom with Allah. The vertical slash mark is "Alif" and the large U shaped character is "Lam" which forms the word "Al" or "The". The bottom right starts with the same "Alif" then the "Dal" symbol which would make it Ad or Of. Of course Arabic is read right to left.
    One of my friends will write me back and tell us what it says for sure.
     
  16. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    more bang for your buck! what's that in millimeters, or inches?
     
  17. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    My Calipers say 1.04" I do have one larger diameter rifled barrel, 40mm on an M79.
     
  18. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    proof-mark
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  19. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

  20. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    My book says since 1768, when British law made it mandatory that all imported weapons had to be proof-tested and marked.
     
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