43 days of fuel left or Australia

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by arleigh, Apr 16, 2018.


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  1. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Due to the conflict in the middle east apparently it is having an adverse effect on countries dependent on their oil .
    Wonder if we shouldn't send our Aussie friends a can of gas ?
     
  2. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    why, they don't have firearms what possible problem could they have since they are so non violent, self sufficient outside manly types.
     
  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    With a fuse?
    After all they are mandated to have 90 days reserve.
    Sounds like a Lib way to blame the US for nailing Syria.
     
  4. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator

    That has nothing to do with a gas shortage in Australia. Owning a gun is not required to use fuel.
     
  5. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    It's Petrol you silly git!
     
  6. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    :ROFLMAO:
     
  7. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The same article states the US no longer holds the mandated 90 days reserve. Interesting that. But yes I think it is ridiculous that it has been allowed to get to that point given we do not refine here. Of course the clock has not started ticking on the 43 days as yet, supply is thus far not interrupted, but it certainly may be.

    And diesel is the big worry, then petrol.

    Oh an noooooooo no one owns guns in Australia......not at all....none. For fu’ks sake a simple search here on this forum may prove educational ;)
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
  8. Seepalaces

    Seepalaces Monkey++ Site Supporter+

    I just read a study that suggested that they only confiscated 50 percent of the guns they want to confiscate. Apparently a whole ton of people out there lost guns in boating accidents.
     
  9. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Since we are still stacking rigs (out of production status) and soon to raise gas prices I guess we will be begging the ARABS to bomb us so we can have free oil too.

    I know, makes no sense but what does in the mass media.
     
  10. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    If they run out of fuel it might be :eek:
     
  11. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    Kinda like all my scary rifles: bottom of 300' deep Lake Champlain. 15 years ago.. Oddly similar behavior in upstate NY, and New Jerky as well.
     
  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    44 days till they go mad max.
     
  13. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    (Warning! Sleazy (but well-intentioned) Shameless Plug Alert!)

    Every single person in Australia is hereby encouraged to buy a copy my book The 15-Minute Shotgun just in case things get a little hinky in the near future.

    It's on Etsy, sold by SurvivalAssured.

    The way I figure, with about 25 million people in Australia, that would mean 25 million 12-gauge shotguns, all made for less than $10.00US, each, and all in the hands of just the right people.

    Which is to say, specifically, NOT the Government.

    Now, if a person has a few odds & ends of plumbing happen to be lying around, it's no big thing.

    Shotgun? What Shotgun?

    These old shells? Been on the shelf for years. Antiques is what they are. Remind me of the Good Old Days...

    Just a thought.
     
  14. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    And, actually they do have firearms, quite a lot... There are a few Aussies on the forum here, good folks, and while they do not have access to everything we do they do have access to quite a bit. I was very surprised. Have a word with @Andy the Aussie He'll set you straight. Hell, he has more guns than I do! LOL!
     
  15. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    .... in reality not even close to 50%....The 1996/97 Buy Back saw about 650K firearms acquired and destroyed (in that case it was mandatory - and compensation paid - for specific newly restricted firearms, the 650K included lots of other junk that was just handed in to be rid of it and not compensated for). So if you consider that over 500K SKS/SKK rifles alone were imported here prior to 1996 you get an idea of the scale of what was NOT surrendered and has continued to languish in the black market. In the years since over 1,000,000 more firearms have been added to the registry (these are new imports and some previously unregistered arms being registered, but mostly new imports). So to say they got and kind of meaningful percentage of the bad and nasty arms they wanted is ludicrous and those of us who do adhere strictly to the law have continued to buy up on the rest of the firearms market.

    But of course....no...no one own a gun here in Australia.....
     
  16. Asia-Off-Grid

    Asia-Off-Grid Frugal Secret Squirrel Site Supporter++

    Nope. But, in about 43 days, I predict it will be in order to keep it. :D :D

    Dang it. I didn't see your reply until now. Sorry.
     
  17. chelloveck

    chelloveck Captain Didactic!

    Sounds like

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    I think the word you're grasping for is non-sequitur.

    I'm not sure what Australia's total static capacity for POL storage is, but with the refineries at Clyde, and Port Stanvac decommissioned, and Kurnell converted from a refinery to a POL import terminal, I'd say that the storage capacity is much less than it once was. Kwinana in WA is the only refinery still operating. Overseas based multinational corporations have no interest in keeping ageing infrastructure going, nor investing heavily in new infrastructure either.

    Australia has some degree of self sufficiency for some grades of raw petroleum from oil wells in Australian waters, it does need to import diesel and other fuel types. I think that the reason that the 43 day strategic holdings is driven by economic / financial factors....who wants to pay at the bowser the cost of storing 190 days of strategic reserves....this being the 21st century...JIT rules! Just In Time - JIT


    You, I and other Aussies here have explained this issue a number of times over the years....but like a bad penny, the topic seems to resurface periodically. [deadhorse] Undoubtedly guns 'n' Australians questions will appear again.
     
  18. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    One of the reasons I brought up the subject is noting that It would be prudent to have a significant reserve of one's own. I have roughly 200gallons of gas and 100 gallons of diesel in sealed 55 gallon drums.
    When the price jacks up I start supplementing off my reserves, and when the price relaxes a bit I restore them.
    I've been through other gas shortages through the years, especially those during disaster .
    There at things going on in the world we are not always made aware of that might have an effect on our lives some how seems prudent to be vigilant over this reserve. Fuel is not the only thing oil is used for, there are synthetic manufacturers (plastics) that depend on oil as well that practically every thing else is built with .
     
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    TPTB have evidently decided that computers and comms have rendered planning ahead to be a waste of time and effort, eh, wot?
    If it is so dependable, why do I have some stuff put by for rainy days, hm? Why does JIT make me envision apartment dwellers spilling onto the streets in search of something (besides drugs) to keep their belly buttons and spines decently separated?
    Luvs me frozen foods, but I keep cans in the cupboard JIC (that's "just in case".)
    Back on topic, then. Andy, or Chelly, does Oz have a natural gas infrastructure that can serve to back up fuel supplies for stationary power?
     
  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    The Aussies have a HUGE oil reserve but no refineries, if there is a shortage, my guess is the refinery's will come back
     
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