45 acp verses 10mm

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by OldDude49, Sep 22, 2022.


  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

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  2. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    As long as there are REAL weapons to hunt with (.30-30, .30-06, .308, 12 GA, etc.) the question is mote. A handgun is the weapon of choice until you can get to a REAL weapon, or you can't carry a REAL weapon.
     
  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    The Old Saying, We carry a pistol to fight our way to a Rifle is really the only thing you need to know!
    As to caliber, and specifically the argument over which is better, I'm not gonna take the bait on that, it's pointless to say the least. That said, pistols absolutely SUCK for fighting! Your forced to choose power vs what you can handle and shoot well enough, and no matter what you choose, it still dosn't even come close to a Rifle with even a questionable caliber! Years ago, the Air Force agreed to let us adopt the 10 mm auto as our standard sidearm, we got a bunch of S&W pistols and mags and went through the transition to get really good with them. The Upgrade in power was pretty serious, even over the .45 APC we had been using, and that served us quite nicely, until all the good full spec ammo dried up and we got .40 Short and Weak instead! Long story short, we were forced out of our sidearms and into the M-9 with it's 9 mm chambering, which absolutely SUCKED!
    Now days, I carry the 10 mm auto in a full size 1911 double stack, thats 16 +1 rounds of 100% pure nastiness with 200 grain solids truckin along @ near 1300 FPS, or 220 Grainers moving along at a swift 1200 FPS, that's SERIOUS power, more then the mighty .357 Mag with Nuke power hand loads! And the best part of 10 mm auto is the hand loads can go from the old FBI specs to Full Nuke +P and then some, taking things to damn near .41 Mag power levels, and it does it in a case that still fits the .45 auto size magazine! I pretty much stopped carrying the .357 Mag, and if I want more then the Big Ten, I go to ether .44 Mag, or .454 Casull and load with any of the choices from .45 Colt all the way to full anti material .454!
     
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  4. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I my case my Belgian Browning HiPower in 9mm, gets me to my 30M1 Carbine, behind the Seat, and that gets me to my Custom AR10, in 308NATO, stored at home.. Good enough for this Monkey...
     
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  5. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    The only issue I have with these other rounds, like 10mm or the other specialized rifle rounds, is that they will be hard to come by in a SHTF world.
    I have nothing against them in today's world. But I am a firm believer in having weapons that take commonly used and available ammo. I'll always have something to run .223, .308, 7.62 x 39 and 51, .45 and 9mm. And those are the ones I stock up on. If nothing else they will make great barter. And in any type of TEOTWAKI event they will be found on any battle field.
     
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  6. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    This is what makes the 10mm such a good choice, to s of .40 S&W around that you can pick up and use if needed! Many only need a recoil spring change ( which should be part of your kit) and you can still rock and roll. Carry a 9mm Barrel and spring set and your good to go, though you would need Mags for the 9mm!
     
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  7. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The old sheriff was attending an
    awards dinner when a lady commented
    on his wearing his sidearm. “Sheriff, I
    see you have your pistol. Are you
    expecting trouble?”
    “NO Ma’am. If I were expecting trouble,
    I would have brought my rifle.”
     
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I thought about getting a 10mm about 20 years ago when it was time for me to legally buy my own hand gun.
    But the only options were a cult delta elite and those were like a thousand bucks. The other choice was plastic and they had a reputation for blowing up.
    Plus the 10mm bullet selection really sucked compared to .451'' if you found anything cool it was nearly double the price of the 45 bullets.
    Loaded ammo was always at least double the price.
     
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Thankfully, that's all changed ( pre Plandemic) to where the factory 10mm auto stuff is about the same as .45 or decent 9mm! I haven't bought any since the lockdowns, but as soon as my supplier starts catching up, I will be re stocking! They are super good at producing quality ammo and reasonable prices, so much so, that they have loaded my fav bullets ( the. 180 gr Golden Sabers) and are selling them for what cheep "White Box" ammo sells for, and I can buy it in bulk and a pretty decent discount!
     
  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Well 20 yeas ago I could get a Walmart value pack of 45acp 230gr fmj for $19.99. Now I'm lucky if I can get 230gr fmj loose bullets for 20 cents each.
    The market has shifted to 9mm. 45 is becoming a lot more like 10mm.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2022
  11. toydoc

    toydoc Monkey+++

    learn to roll your own.
     
  12. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I like my 45 and some years ago I bought once fired 45 brass (4,000) and reloaded them for pennies, I used the wife's food saver and sealed and put in an ammo cans. Should last long along time and stuff I shoot probably can reload another 6 times.
     
  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I have been for 20 years that's why I know how much 230gr fmj bullets cost.
     
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