9mm Automatic Cartridge...

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Dark Jester, May 25, 2014.

  1. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    An article on a seemingly not-so-critical issue, but an interesting observation nonetheless.

    I have experienced the "nosedive" in certain handguns, but attributed it to either the bullet or ramp.

    LINK -> The 9mm Automatic: A Better 9mm Cartridge | Shooting Times

    Insightful comments welcomed...
    Last edited: May 26, 2014
  3. shamrock75

    shamrock75 Monkey

    I guess the real point here is that newer handguns in 9mm are more particular about the ammo you feed in them while older style guns will have less issues.It's also common for the feed ramps on metal framed pistols to get a good polish to prevent issues which you may not want to do on some plastic guns.There is also so many types of 9mm ammo it's up to you to find what's the most reliable in your gun.The flaw in ammo issue seems a little far fetched.
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  4. Grand58742

    Grand58742 Monkey+++

    Actually I find just the opposite. Older pistols generally have more issues with feeding hollowpoint ammo than modern ones do as they were designed to feed FMJ type loads. Hi Powers for example can be downright finicky with JHP loads.

    Most modern pistols were designed with hollowpoint rounds in mind and the feed ramp geometry take the different projectile into account.
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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    HPs can be a problem with the older designs, that's for sure. No matter what I did, my 1911 will not digest them (nor will the P38). Ah, well, hardball is 100% reliable, so that's what I feed it.
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  6. Grand58742

    Grand58742 Monkey+++

    Never had a problem with my 1911s, but I've heard the stories. Then again, I don't have what purists would call a "real" 1911 (Sigs) and I figure most manufacturers have taken the plethora of JHP rounds into account these days. Older ones would probably have some issues though.
  7. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    As far as feeding hollow points thru a 1911 I have both new and old style barrels in .45. newer style feeds anything I shove through it. Older barrel (this is a very old 1911a1)wouldn't feed anything but fmj. Friend did a throat job on it and now it isn't at all finicky and that is with old military surplus mags.Don't know if it'll work always but sure fixed mine.Also learned to use a mag that works and set feed lips on the other ones to it. And yeah, I use hardball in my preferred defense 45 just because I'm old and know it works.
  8. shamrock75

    shamrock75 Monkey

  9. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Don't we all test our weapons to find the ammo that it likes the best? I.e., reliability and accuracy?

    If the weapon likes Tula the best .. then buy tula
    if it likes WWB .. buy WWB
    if it likes corbon .. buy corbon.
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  10. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    9mm Automatic- a solution in search of a problem.
  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Hrm, is the OAL the same for both bullet types? I had to slightly reform my feed ramp and put a nice high polish on it, then the HP's did great. Even cowboy bullets loaded well. They are just big softies as you know.
  12. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    9mm-Auto comparison. 9mm-Auto.
  13. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Thanks. I meant his particular loads since people reload and the OAL does vary. I once reloaded HP rounds and after seating they were a tad shorter, which caused feed problems! I should have been more specific, my bad.
  14. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    No problem. Disregard if you already have the specs.
    Perhaps other folks can use it...

    Oh, and thanks for the input.
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  15. tract

    tract On Hiatus Banned

    Actually, .45 ball is a very poor performer. it's just had millions of lies told about it, that's all. You can test it for yourself, on animals, to prove me correct, any time you want to know the truth about it. get ready to be shocked. I know I was! I'd just assumed that Elmer and Jeff were knowledgable and truthful, but they were not.
  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I disagree. I have the following piece of evidence to support my theory


    Nah, I'm just joking. It's a good thing the .45 was never used in combat or anything, or else your statement might be considered a bit inflammatory and without merit.

  17. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    maybe no forty six but they got a fifty!
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  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    There's your 46(0)
  19. tract

    tract On Hiatus Banned

    so what? shoot some critters with it, then get back to me. .22's work, fairly often. .45 ball is little better on animals. in fact, it's about tied with stingers, from a .22lr RIFLE. So a LOT of lies have been told about .45 ball (and you believe them) so what ? everyone on earth used to believe that the world was flat, too. shoot some critters, you'll see.
  20. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Hmmm... I guess it depends on what you call "Critters"...
  21. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

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