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  1. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned


    9th Circuit Paves The Way To Ending Gun Rights

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    By: Ben Shapiro

    June 9, 2016

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    On Thursday, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling stating that there is no right under the Second Amendment to carry concealed weapons in public. This, of course, is surprising, given that the actual language of the Second Amendment explicitly declares the right to “bear arms” – and bearing arms means carrying them. But the Court truly just wants to allow localities to regulate firearm ownership out of existence, or like practice of religion, to restrict the right to the privacy of your home.

    Circuit Judge William Fletcher wrote the opinion, in which he stated that “the Second Amendment does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public.” The case itself revolved around the question of “good cause” restrictions on concealed carry permits. It is nearly impossible to get a concealed carry permit in, for example, Los Angeles County – even people who are regularly subjected to death threats are denied such permits. “Good cause” in San Diego County explicitly excludes “fearing for one’s personal safety alone.”

    Finally, she hits the mark: “Constitutional rights would become meaningless if states could obliterate them by enacting incrementally more burdensome restrictions while arguing that a reviewing court must evaluate each restriction by itself when determining its constitutionality.”

    Yet this incrementalism is the explicit goal of the left. Of course Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will never say they want to ban all firearms. Instead, they’ll just destroy the right to bear arms piecemeal: they’ll say that you have no right to open carry, you have no right to concealed carry, and you have no right to have guns in the home. Voila! Gun rights destroyed. The left uses the same logic to destroy freedom of religion: you have no right to practice your religion in the workplace, you have no right to teach your children your religion, your church has no right to operate as a business in the public sphere. Voila! Religious rights destroyed.

    This is how the Constitution is rendered meaningless: not in one giant full-frontal assault, but day by day, case by case. This is also why the Second Amendment matters. The government that can carve away your gun rights can carve away all the other ones, too.

    9th Circuit Paves The Way To Ending Gun Rights
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  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    This essentially denies folks, in certain areas of California where the rules a very strict with respect to concealed weapons permits, the right to self defense. This is a basic human right. The justices on the 9th circuit court issued the wrong decision and those who authored the majority opinion should removed.
  3. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Without gun rights there aren't any others...
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  4. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    Par for the course for that liberal shit hole they call a court.
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  5. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    Lets hope the Supremes kick this to the curb
  6. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey+++

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  7. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Which makes the next president so much more important.....right now the Supreme Court is split. The next pres, decides if the 9th district court ruling stands.
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  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I read this as open carry only. The decision says, as far as i can see, that you are not garenteed the right to hide a gun in public, but says not a word against open carry. The right to hide anything, would be "secure in your person and in your property" which is NOT second amendment.
  9. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Oh so have to wait for someone to issue you a death threat first? Then you start the long process of getting a permit.
    Makes perfect sense, if you're an idiot.
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  10. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    In kali they made a law prohibiting open carry in nearly all locations... IIRC?

    so when and how can you carry?
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  11. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    We never should have let them start banning concealed carry in the first place...if our forebears had nipped this nonsense in the bud these bozos would not have this "historical" evidence that they used to make this decision.

    Does anyone still think all this compromising we've been doing since the post-civil war days was a good idea? Give em an inch and they'll take your first born.
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  12. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    California State Law Summary
  13. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Pretty much says you can't in just about....

    well... everywhere except out in the wilderness areas or out hunting in said area kinda thing... ?

    or inside your home...

    so in that state you have NO real right to carry/bear arms in locations where they might actually be needed...

    it would seem...
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  14. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    This is the big question... you can ban firearms, but states have the right ti limit carry... however when the state's limits to weapons carry equals a ban then it becomes un constitutional... the court addressed a narrow aspect of a single law and not the overall set of laws limiting guns in CA...

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  15. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Which means iti now needs to be Constitutionally challenged.
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  16. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Almost.. The entire system currently used in CA for weapons carry needs to be challenged not the concealed carry aspect... If there is a form of open carry then the concealed carry aspect would not be unconstitutional... If however the entirety of the California carry laws constitute a ban on the right to bear arms then all of the Ca. laws other than the concealed carry law are unconstitutional...

    Or I miss my reading of the 9th circuit court dissenters...
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  17. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    I do not buy into this fiction that states have a right to limit how you can carry. They can limit where you can carry, but not how you can carry. We looked the other way in the name of safety...protecting us from Yankee/KKK/Mexican/Chinese/newly freed darkies carrying hidden firearms...but just because we were STUPID back in those days is no excuse to continue to tolerate this abuse of our God-given rights today.
  18. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Yes, this notion that a state has the power to regulate "how" you carry needs to be challenged...I don't believe it ever has been at the federal level. Of course today we are one Justice short...we should rectify that first...and to rectify it properly we need to keep that witch Clinton out of the White House.
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Beware of a twilight nomination and hurried confirmation. What bothers me most about the MT chair is that zero has not yet moved to fill it. He KNOWS he'll have a fight on his hands with the Senate as it is now, and he's hoping his successor will be able to deal with it. Not crossing my fingers ---. The delay is unconscionable.
  20. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    That is why your Mileage may vary.... Unfortunately you are not a Justice on the Supreme Court so whether is a "Fiction" or not and our opinion is of limited use at this time other than casting your vote for the next president... and praying...
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