A general First aid guide

Discussion in 'Survival Medicine' started by melbo, Aug 9, 2005.

  1. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

  2. rushellwilliam

    rushellwilliam Monkey+

    Thanx for providing this information. It is really helpful. Good luck.
  3. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Some economical basics that you need to keep on hand in quantity are sanitary napkins-great for dressings. Aspirin, Tylenol, burn ointments, Pepto, etc. Duct tape has a thousand uses. Get some knowledge under your belt. The Red Cross has first aid, first responders, EMT, and an array of higher courses offered at most tech schools. Epsom salt, yellow root (golden seal), and even plain salt can do as minor anti septics. Yellow is a mild anti biotic and very shelf stable. Animal antibiotics is the same stuff your dr. prescribes and available at most any farm/pet supplier. I have a large sealed Aluminum container full of all kinds of supplies and a couple others more easily transportable. Get that training asap because all the supplies in the world will not do much good w/o being able to use it properly. Learn the "ABCs"(Airway,Breathing, Circulation) and how to properly correct them. It is important--the life you save may be mine-lol.
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  4. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    I agree with -06 about the Red cross get some traing when I first started building my SHTF supplies I took an EMT corse. Then talked with some medic's and ER doctor's who helped me fill my bags. I have four of the large Medic bags one is just filled with Meds (make sure to keep check on exp dates) Then one is filled with the same supplies that a rescue unit carries, I keep it in my vehicle, The other two I have loaded down with Med supplies stored with my other supplies. I was watching on Best defense the other night they were doing a show about being prepared and the one older guy was in a class that was teaching people how to stitch up wounds. Training and being prepared with the right supplies will save your life or the life of your family and friends. Plus if you are in a situation where you need to stay on the move and someone gets hurt it dont take you out of the game.
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  5. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Is there a home remedy for pain reliever? All kits say have IBprofin or acetaminophen but what if you don't have any. I got my nose crunched last week and was able to go to the store to get pain reliever. If SHTF and the stores closed what do you use? I have lots of links to read though on other threads but I don't see anything yet of someone saying: this works.
  6. Beano

    Beano Monkey

    Well, different types of pain would call for different things. Muscle soreness, punched in the face or nose, et al, a good cold compress is the way to go. Reducing inflammation is key to managing the pain. A migraine can usually be mitigated by hydration (I have powdered Gatorade in both my BOB and my food storage because I get a migraine about once every two months or so). I also have little sealed packets of my own migraine elixir---one Goody's headache powder mixed with 1/2 cup of Gatorade and a pinch of salt, to be mixed into a standard Nalgene bottle of water. For ladies' monthly visitor, my wife says drinking a little wine helps (red, appropriately). If you sprain something, the RICE method applied in a timely and correct manner can make a difference of days regarding recovery.

    These are all just personal experience; can't say that I'm an authority on the matter. But they're simple and sensible.
  7. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    Cannabis..for analgesic, sedative, anxiolytic and barter use.
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  8. KAS

    KAS Monkey+++

    Melbo good post ,

    what is syrup of ipecac??? what is it used for and were can i get it ???

    u never know how important this training is untill u are using it ...
    i cant stress enuff how important it is to pay attention to all the details in cpr class cause it all falls into line when the shtf...

    its seems to me red wine and cannabis cures a bunch of problems in my house......
  9. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    Willow bark, willow catkins, River Birch bark all contain salicylic acid (aspirin).

    This from:
    7 Powerful Natural Painkillers in Your Kitchen | Care2 Healthy Living

    7 Powerful Natural Painkillers in Your Kitchen

    Blueberries: Research shows that 1 cup of blueberries can ward off up to 60% of urinary tract infections. The secret weapon here is antioxidants, which kill the free radicals that inflame the digestive lining. So eating blueberries can keep you free from peptic ulcers, digestive discomfort, and bladder infections.

    Grapes: An Ohio University research study shows that 1 cup of grapes eaten daily can bring relief from backache. That’s because grapes contain nutrients that increase blood circulation to the lower back, which in turn alleviates pain.

    Pineapple: The bromelain in pineapple is known to ease bloated tummy and heaviness. It also improves circulation, stopping cramps and inhibiting inflammation. It may help rid the body of inflammatory compounds that contribute to arthritis.

    Oats: They have been seen to play a role in easing menstrual cramps and bring relief from endometriosis. Oats are loaded with the anti-cramping mineral magnesium. They are also one of the best sources of dietary zinc for women who suffer from painful periods.

    Garlic: In the ancient world, garlic played a starring role as painkiller. Chop up a clove of garlic and heat it in a tablespoon of olive oil or mustard oil. Apply it all over aching joints—you will feel tremendous relief from arthritic pain. It is quite popular as a home remedy for alleviating toothache—3 cloves of garlic + a pinch of salt. Crush them together and apply on the affected tooth for quick relief.

    Cloves: A proven ally in your battle against toothache. Toothpastes featuring clove are beneficial for oral health. You can simply dab a little clove oil sprinkled on a cotton swab on the aching tooth—it works like magic.

    Apple Cider Vinegar: Stir 1 tbsp. of cider vinegar into 1 cup of plain water. Sip slowly for relief from heartburn. Since the apple cider vinegar is alkaline-forming, it has an overall alkalizing effect on the body, which most people need due to our modern, acid-forming diets.
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  10. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    It's an emetic. Makes you puke, take as soon as you can after eating or drinking something poisonous if the patient is conscious. It has become scarce due to some question whether or not it's effective. Get it at your local drug store if they have it.

    Syrup of ipecac - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  11. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    If you don't have any of it on hand, garlic juice or warm salty water will do the trick as well.
  12. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I knew that garlic and oil oil would help with a babies earache but I never thought of it for other purposes. I guess i will have to try this.

    Now about the clove oil. I know that dentists use it for pain but when I went to the health food store it all said not to put it in your mouth. I spoke to the lady at the store and they had no clue what the dentist was using. They thought maybe a diluted solution would work but what they had was really to strong to ingest.
  13. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    I haven't read anything about actually "ingesting" clove oil, any more than one would "ingest" Ambesol. It's used just like Ambesol though, as a contact pain reliever. I've never read a negative report about using it in the mouth, but quite to the contrary; it is highly recommended for toothache and pain in the gums.

    And Garlic itself is listed as an anti-nausea aid in some books, but a quantity of juice from garlic is said to be emetic. I haven't tried it myself. I think it's a matter of "too much of a good thing" with garlic. It's quite beneficial in small quantities, but in large quantities it has other effects. My five year old can attest to the fact that black olives are a good thing, but drinking the brine from which they came, when mom and dad's back is turned, is a bad thing; and it too is an emetic.
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  14. Gregory Adam

    Gregory Adam Monkey

    Helpful guide,,, thanks!!!
  15. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    The full edition of the
    is available on line in PDF format at no cost.
    This is the 2003 edition and bowing to the inevitable threat of lawsuits, the manual now says:
    QUOTE The early editions of the Medicine Chest provided step-by-step instructions on how to treat a variety of illnesses that might be expected underway when the ship was days from shore, and had limited communication with land. The master or designated crewmember had to independently manage whatever injury or illness might occur.

    Fortunately, for the health of all merchant seamen and others at sea, the world has changed. Modern technology allows for nearly continual “real-time” communication between the ship and shore. With this, real-time access to medical consultation is nearly always available. In today’s world, serious medical problems underway will be managed via communication with shore-based physicians and other medical resources. More sophisticated tele-medicine capabilities, often including video as well as audio components, are also continually being expanded.

    As a result of these changes in technology and medical practice, this edition has limited the “how to” aspects of medical management. Instead, it identifies when medical consultation may be needed, and describes how to do a basic physical exam and then how to communicate these medical findings to shore-based experts." END QUOTE.

    That said, if you go to **Ship's medicine chest and first aid at sea : United States. Public Health Service : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive**
    you'll find an earlier, and more detailed, circa 1929, edition in Kindle, Epub and several PDF format for free download. This is for folks with a more End of the World outlook.

    I've posted the links for both. I've spent years as a working military Med tech and can see the value of both versions. Take the time to down load both and see what best matches your training.

    A very well done general first manual is also online at the Adventure Medical site, also in pdf format and no cost. I can recommend this manual for folks with minimal training. I can very much recommend downloading this book and reading before you need to work on an injury. Kudos to the folks at Adventure Medical for making this manual available at no cost on line.

    The Brits have much the same thing.
    **Ships Captain's Medical Guide**
    you download a chapter at a time, in PDF.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2014
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  16. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    I clicked on the link above and was taken to bizrite????
  17. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

  18. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    I just clicked on the links and was taken to the documents indicated, however in case the links aren't obvious, I've added ** around the links, hope this helps.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2014
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  19. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Thanks DKR.. This looks interesting..
  20. Kelly Marie

    Kelly Marie Monkey

    I do not believe you can buy ipecac in the ol US of A any longer, but would love to know if we can find it elsewhere..... :)
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