A refresher course on the second amendment

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Witch Doctor 01, Jan 14, 2013.


  1. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    1. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.."~Thomas Jefferson



    2. "Those who trade liberty for security have neither." ~ John Adams



    3. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.



    4. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.



    5. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.



    6. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.



    7. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.



    8. Know guns, know peace, know safety.
    ................No guns, no peace, no safety.



    9. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.



    10. Assault is a behavior, not a device.



    11. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.



    12. The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.



    13. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.



    14. What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?



    15. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.



    16. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.



    17. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
     
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  2. ralfy

    ralfy Monkey

    The Second Amendment is not about the right to bear arms. That's because the right to bear arms is a natural right and thus requires no government approval. It's natural because it's based on the right to defend oneself, which is part of English common law.

    The problem is that the right to defend strangers is not a natural right, and because the U.S. had a small standing army, it needed militias to supplement it. That's why the context of the Second is Art. 1 Sec. 8 and the Militia Acts.

    Thus, the Second is actually a form of gun control, as it was the origin of mandatory national service.
     
  3. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    A form of gun control. I can't get my mind around that at all.

    It was meant as a clear declaration for the right to bear arms. A way to keep government honest.

    So if you could say more that would be helpful cuz I am not tracking you logic ralfy
     
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  4. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
    Current through Pub. L. 114-19. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

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    313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b) The classes of the militia are—
    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
     
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