Agenda Anyone..

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  1. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    Everyone seems to have an agenda. Cries of warning for climate change, famine, suffering of the displaced, and on and on it goes.. How about one agenda for them all. The Biodiversity treaty.. A treaty that our congress rejected, yet corporations, NGO's, city, state, and federal officials are advancing the mandates of this UN treaty. Many of the threats that we perceive, singularly do not present that nothing more than a distraction, however when viewed all together they present a more onerous view of the planned future.

    Was looking on another forum for information on Bee's and found this:

    Post 2015 process .:. Sustainable Development Knowledge Platform

    Stakeholder Engagement .:. Sustainable Development Knowledge Platform

    Home .:. Sustainable Development Knowledge Platform

    I have grown to loath the phrase "Sustainable", and join that with development, the hair on the back of my neck perks up..
     
  2. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    The term "sustainable" should always be followed by the question, "How much is this going to cost us?"
     
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Agenda 21

    No joke, it's pretty screwed up, man. Research for yourselves.
     
  4. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    It is the new religion of Gia or whatever. We have to save the "insert your favorite belief" and the he** with how much it costs you or how many of your rights it takes or if it puts your company out of business. Stop the pipeline, protect the spotted fink, etc and so on. The big problem is that it seems to be a world wide belief and the UN and a lot of other international groups are feeding the frenzy and yes they do seem to have an agenda and what is even worse, parts of "our" government are using our tax dollars and creating rules and laws to enforce that agenda. Bought any cheap South African surplus ammo or Russian surplus rifles lately?
     
  5. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    The "Universal Agenda for Humanity" which will "transform our world for the better", Agenda 2030, is being ratified the 25th through the 27th of this month.

    This update to Agenda 21 is the UN conference where the Pope is speaking.

    Agenda 21's focus was mainly environmental, Agenda 2030 focuses more on human activity.

    Zero Hedge has a decent article that came out on the 3rd about it, sorry, being a noob can't post links yet.
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

  7. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

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  8. pearlselby

    pearlselby Monkey++

  9. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    Interesting isn't it.

    Here's another article on it that breaks down some of the questionable things about this "shooting"

    Oregon Shooting: 13 Troubling Signs Of Potentially Yet Another False Flag

    And this:

    upload_2015-10-13_21-21-38.

    Not swallowing the narrative of the gunman asking if the students were Christian and if they were he shot them in the head, if not he shot them in the legs. Really????

    And students said they were Christian even after seeing someone get shot in the head for it?

    In the Bible Belt or at a Christian school maybe. In a secular school in Oregon???? Not buying it. The whole thing reeks of a staged event to push gun control, get Christians upset and identify what issues people identify with.

    People post about their lives constantly on social media, especially this age group. Nothing has been showing up in social media about this supposed event.

    Last but not least, this "shooting" distracted people from Putin going in to Syria and bombing the ISIS terrorists Obama has been funding.
     
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  10. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    You must not be a Christian. A truly believer would not deny their faith.They believe in Heaven and their God
     
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  11. pearlselby

    pearlselby Monkey++

    Katana Lee,

    You are so right!!

    That girl is not the only one. I have seen several man and women who showed up on numerous occasions at other false flags.
     
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  12. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    Yep, there's a whole industry of crisis actors
     
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  13. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    Here's the US map for Agenda 21
    Biodiversity-Mapagenda21.
     
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  14. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    That map is 11 yrs old and is from a power point slide the epa did that showed all federal lands, planned federal acquisitions and federal way water ways in the USA. It was the EPA'S grandiose version of.... this is our domain. The USDA set them straight on that years ago.
     
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  15. pearlselby

    pearlselby Monkey++

  16. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    It is an older map. The title of the map states:

    upload_2015-10-15_20-20-30.


    UN Agenda 21 is all about "sustainable development", and this a graphic interpretation of it.

    Not sure what it has to do with the EPA and USDA, both of which are working towards this along with the rest of our government agencies.
     
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  17. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey


    Yes. Check this out (copied from my post in the 3 percent forum):

    The Trans Pacific Partnership is the latest "free trade" deal brought to you by the architects of the new world order. It affects almost every aspect of your life - jobs, medicine, internet...

    This trade deal expands upon NAFTA, which gutted American industry.

    Much of the trade deal was written in secret minus the participation of representatives of the world's citizens.

    Here is a summary of what is known about it

    Trans-Pacific Partnership

    Our lapdog Senate gave Obama fast track privileges - Congress only gets to vote up or down on the treaty once it is finalized by the White House, and they do not have the ability to offer amendments to it.

    Something to think about when that many Germans, who are not prone to in the street protests, take to the streets.

    And this:

    WH Spox Says He 'Noticed' Hillary Said She 'Looked' at TPP Details Before Release - Breitbart

    There are people in Congress who haven't seen it yet, and she has. Yeah.... we are all conspiracy theorists and nut jobs.... right.....
     
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  18. pearlselby

    pearlselby Monkey++

    Katana Lee,

    This is going to be so bad for us.
     
  19. Katana Lee

    Katana Lee Monkey

    Yes, pearlselby yes it is. All of the Agenda stuff is going to be bad for us.
     
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  20. snoop4truth

    snoop4truth Monkey

    Hello Katana Lee,

    Respectfully, you are mistaken. That map absolutely, positively has nothing to do with Agenda 21. What's more, Agenda 21 was rejected by the United States, is not law in the United States and is completely irrelevant in the United States.

    THE "AGENDA 21 MAP"

    Deborah Tavares claims to have discovered a "SIMULATED" land use map which she fraudulently claims CONSTITUTES PROOF that Agenda 21 is a plan which uses diabolical means (like forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, this is not so.

    To see this "SIMULATED" land use map, scroll down to about 40% through the text here.
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/paradise-destroyed-thoughts-on-weather-warfare/

    OTHER VERSIONS OF THIS MAP:
    https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=v9WSXKW_K4uo_Qb-3JyIBA&q=%22Agenda+21+map%22+PDF&btnK=Google+Search&oq=%22Agenda+21+map%22+PDF&gs_l=psy-ab.3..35i39.23888.34933..38030...3.0..0.177.1584.16j4....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....6..0i131j0j0i67j0i131i67j0i22i30.Fm6zNgdf57I

    IMPORTANT:
    Note that this "SIMULATED" land use map makes NO REFERENCE to "Agenda 21" whatsoever and that IT REFERS INSTEAD to the "Convention On Biological Diversity" (something different from Agenda 21). Importantly, this "SIMULATED" land use map ALSO REFERS TO "The Wildlands Project" (a mere suggestion from private environmentalists which IS NOT LAW and which HAS NOTHING to do with the United Nations), "UN and US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs" and "NAFTA" (which ALSO has NOTHING to do with the United Nations).

    PROOF THAT "AGENDA 21" AND THE "BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY TREATY" ARE DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21 (proposed and rejected and rejected in 1992);
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Biological_Diversity (proposed in 1994);

    WHO CREATED THIS MAP?
    Dr. Michael S. Coffman was a prolific writer, speaker and property rights advocate. He often spoke at "liberty" conferences sponsored by the John Birch Society. He was an "environmental consultant", which is code for a lobbyist for large land owning interests, land developers (like Deborah Tavares) and large logging & mining corporations which profit by destroying the environment. Coffman and his clients opposed land use regulations in general and environmental regulations in particular. In 1994, when Congress was scheduled to vote on ratifying the proposed "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21), Coffman created the subject "SIMULATED" land use map to create opposition to that particular proposed treaty (not to Agenda 21). https://www.metabunk.org/explained-agenda-21-map-of-simulated-reserve-and-corridor-system-biodiversity-propaganda.t6855/ It worked. The United States Senate ALSO REJECTED that proposed treaty. Below is a verbatim transcript of the actual Senate debate on that proposed treaty which the Senate ALSO REJECTED. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-1994-09-30/html/CREC-1994-09-30-pt1-PgS22.htm.

    Coffman conceded that his "SIMULATED" land use map reflected what would be the resulting land use in the United States ONLY IF "ALL" OF THE PROPOSED LAND USE REGULATIONS listed at the top of his map became the law ("The Wildlands Project", "UN And US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs", etc.). But, Agenda 21 itself WAS NOT among those proposed land use regulations reflected by Coffman's map because THE UNITED STATES SENATE HAD ALREADY REJECTED AGENDA 21. So, Coffman relied on OTHER proposed land use regulations in creating his "SIMULATED" land use map.

    Coffman's "SIMULATED" land use map was WILDLY EXAGERATED (for propaganda purposes) both visually and verbally (note the very first word on the map, "SIMULATED"). Coffman himself coined the phrase, "LITTLE OR NO HUMAN USE" (for propaganda purposes), a phrase which does not appear in any of his alleged source material. Note also that for propaganda purposes, Coffman gave EVERY tiny wildlife refuge on his map MULTIPLE, very wide, migration routes (up to 50 miles wide) to and from neighboring wildlife refuges (as if such were actually required under these OTHER land use proposals). This created the illusion that there would much less land available for human use if these OTHER land use proposals ever became law.

    COFFMAN INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED HIS WILDLY-EXAGGERATED HIS LAND USE MAP (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21) TO CREATE THE APPEARANCE THAT IF ALL OF THESE OTHER PROPOSED LAND USE PROPOSALS WERE TO BECOME LAW, THEN, THERE WOULD BE LESS LAND AVAILABLE FOR HUMAN USE.

    FACT:
    IT WAS COFFMAN'S EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") LAND USE MAP (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21) THAT BECAME THE FOUNDATION FOR THE ORIGINAL CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT AGENDA 21 WILL FORCE US OUT OF OUR RURAL AND SUBURBAN HOMES AND INTO OVERPOULATED CITIES, EVEN THOUGH THAT EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") LAND USE MAP ACTUALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 IN THE FIRST PLACE!


    FACT:
    But, it was Deborah Tavares alone who came up with the new, improved and more sensational version of this hoax to the effect that Agenda 21 is a "plan" to use diabolical means (like forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space) to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the extinction of mankind. Note that this new, improved and more sensation version of this hoax allowed Deborah Tavares to incorporate some of her other hoaxes (to the effect that PG&E used directed energy weapons on satellites in space to start the recent fires in California and that PG&E will use radiation from "smart meters" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind, etc.).

    FACT:
    Deborah Tavares has always known that Coffman's "SIMULATED" land use map was both WILDLY-EXAGGERATED and that IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AGENDA 21 IN THE FIRST PLACE, much less with the United Nations using forest fires and laser beams from satellites in space to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into increasingly smaller, densely-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" and "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, Deborah Tavares nevertheless decided to lie about it anyway in order to incite fear, hatred and violence against innocent Americans.

    CONCLUSION:
    The United States Senate REJECTED Agenda 21. So, Agenda 21 IS NOT A TREATY, IS NOT THE LAW, IS NOT ENFORCED AND IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT in the United States. Coffman's WILDLY EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") land use map had NOTHING to do with Agenda 21 in the first place. Coffman's WILDLY EXAGGERATED ("SIMULATED") land use map was based on ALL of the proposed land use regulations at the time EXCEPT FOR AGENDA 21 ("The Wildlands Project", "UN And US Man And Biosphere Program", various "Heritage Programs", etc.). Coffman created his WILDLY EXAGGERATED "SIMULATED") land use map as propaganda to generate opposition to the "Biological Diversity Treaty" (something different from Agenda 21) WHICH THE UNITED STATES SENATE ALSO REJECTED.

    APPLICATION TO HOAX:
    THE RECENT CALIFORNIA FIRES DID NOT ADVANCE THE PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 (TO PREVENT FURTHER DEFORESTATION). INDEED, THE RECENT FIRES IN CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY UNDERMINED THE PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 (BY DESTROYING THE VERY FORESTS THAT AGENDA 21 WAS INTENDED TO PROTECT)!


    THEREFORE, THE RECENT CALIFORNIA FIRES WERE NOT "AGENDA 21 FIRES", EVEN IF THEY WERE THE RESULT OF SOME OTHER CONSPIRACY, unrelated to Agenda 21.

    So, whether or not there is a "planned extinction of mankind", this document provides no support for that proposition.

    APPLICATION OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS:
    If I were a charlatan, and if I wanted to create a BETTER version of the Agenda 21 Hoax, this is how I would do it.

    1. I would create videos and I would show the REAL, ACTUAL "AGENDA 21" DOCUMENT (unmodified) showing the Agenda 21 "agenda" AS IT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN in the official document (showing that its purpose is to PROTECT THE REMAINING FORESTS, PREVENT DROUGHT AND ENSURE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF FRESH WATER UNCONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE (all of which is verifiably true).

    2. Then, in my videos, I would show written proof that THE UNITED STATES SENATE REJECTED AGENDA 21 AND THAT IT IS NOT A TREATY, IS NOT THE LAW, AND IS NOT ENFORCED ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES (all of which is also verifiably true).

    3. Then, in my videos, I would show ALL OF THE ENVIROMENTAL CATASTROPHES SUFFERED BY CALIFORNIANS SINCE 1992, when Agenda 21 was first proposed AND REJECTED BY THE UNITED STATES SENATE (DESTRUCTION OF THE REMAINING FORESTS, INCREASED DROUGHT, ABSENCE OF FRESH WATER UNCONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE, PEOPLE RENDERED HOMELESS AND DISPLACED BY FOREST FIRES, ETC.).

    4. Then, in my videos, I would claim that "THE REFUSAL" (ITSELF) of U.S. Government to adopt "Agenda 21" in I992 constitutes conclusive "PROOF" that the U.S. Government ACTUALLY SOUGHT TO PURPOSELY DESTROY ALL THE REMAINING FORESTS IN CALIFORNIA, PURPOSELY INCREASE DROUGHTS IN CALIFORNIA AND PURPOSELY DESTROY ALL SUPPLIES OF FRESH WATER IN CALIFORNIA NOT CONTAMINATED BY SEWAGE in order o purposely drive Californians out of their rural and suburban homes and into cities far away from the forests and wilderness areas.

    That would make a much BETTER "Agenda 21 Hoax", BECAUSE (except for the nefarious intentions of the U.S. Government part) IT IS ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, VERIFIABLY AND FACTUALLY TRUE IN EVERY SINGLE RESPECT! That would make for a MUCH MORE LOGICAL EXPLANATION for the ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHIES SUFFERED BY CALIFORNIANS since 1992 than the story that Deborah Tavares peddles now (WHICH ACTUALLY CONTRADICTS THE REAL PURPOSE OF AGENDA 21 TO PROTECT THOSE VERY FORESTS FROM DESTRUCTION IN THE FIRST PLACE).

    MORE APPLICATION OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS:
    FACT: When corporate interests are threatened by proposed laws which would reduce their profits, they launch a public relations campaign against those proposed laws. But, they do not admit that they actually oppose the proposed laws for reasons of their own selfish interests. Instead, they pretend that they oppose the proposed laws to protect the interests of society in general (out of the goodness of their own hearts).

    EXAMPLE: CONSIDER THIS HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE AS IT RELATES TO AGENDA 21. (NOTE: THIS MAY NOT HAVE EVER OCCURRED. IT IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE TO ILLUSTRATE THIS PRINCIPLE.).

    If made into law, Agenda 21 (a proposed law) would slow the rate at which logging & mining corporations and land developers, like Deborah Tavares, could destroy the remaining forests (and thereby slow the rate at which they generate profits).

    So, these corporate interests launch a public relations campaign against Agenda 21. But, they do not admit that they actually oppose Agenda 21 to protect their own profits. Instead, they pretend to oppose Agenda 21 to protect the rest of society (out of the goodness of their own hearts).

    So, they come up with a CAREFULLY-CRAFTED LIE intended to get the rest of society to oppose Agenda 21 as much as they do. Instead of admitting that Agenda 21 would only slow down the rate at which logging & mining corporations and land developers, like Deborah Tavares, could destroy the remaining forests to generate profits, they falsely claim that Agenda 21 WOULD ACTUALLY WORK IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!

    Specifically, they falsely claim that Agenda 21 WOULD ACTUALLY EXPAND THE FORESTS AND WILDERNESS INTO AREAS THAT WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND ALREADY OCCUPIED BY HUMANS, thereby systematically driving homeowners out of their rural and suburban homes and into increasingly-smaller, tightly packed, over-populated cities (something that the REAL Agenda 21 would not actually do).


    This FRAUDULENT characterization of Agenda 21 would serve to make ALL THE REST OF SOCIETY join with those who profit by destroying the forests. The rest of society would OPPOSE "AGENDA 21" in the mistaken belief THAT THEY WERE SAVING THEIR OWN HOMES IN THE PROCESS. Now, THAT is a brilliant lie. But, it gets even better.

    By telling such a lie, logging & mining corporations and real estate developers, like Deborah Tavares, could continue DESTROYING THE FORESTS and continue to cash in without any opposition from the rest of society WHILE SIMULATANEOUSLY BLAMING "AGENDA 21" (WHICH NEVER BECAME LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE) FOR THE HARDSHIPS THAT THEY THEMSELVES KNOWINGLY INFLICT ON THE REST OF SOCIETY BY DESTROYING THE REMAINING FORESTS IN THE PURSUIT OF PROFITS (increased droughts and therefore increased forest fires, decreased fresh water supplies uncontaminated by sewage, etc.). Now, THAT is a TRULY brilliant lie, blaming a SUGGESTION that never became law, for the hardships suffered by Californians, when the SUGGESTION that never became law WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO PREVENT THOSE VERY HARDSHIPS FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    Remember, the foregoing is only an ILLUSTRATION of how corporate interests engage in disinformation campaigns in order to get society to oppose proposed laws that would reduce their profits. I do not know if Deborah Tavares lied to us about Agenda 21 for similar reasons. Ultimately, the reasons she lied to us about Agenda 21 is irrelevant. All that matters is that she lied to us.

    Thus, Deborah Tavares has AGAIN lied to us about what the what her documents say in the in the same way that she lied to us about every other document she has ever used in support of her claims about the planned extinction of mankind.
     
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