Alexa? Please Record Our Conversations And Then Send Them Without Telling Us.

Discussion in 'Technical' started by 3M-TA3, May 24, 2018.

  1. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    You have to be INSANE to allow anything that can record you let alone have speech recognition in your home.

    "A Portland family contacted Amazon to investigate after they say a private conversation in their home was recorded by Amazon's Alexa -- the voice-controlled smart speaker -- and that the recorded audio was sent to the phone of a random person in Seattle, who was in the family’s contact list.

    "My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to what we're saying," said Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name.

    Every room in her family home was wired with the Amazon devices to control her home's heat, lights and security system. ..." Read more at the link below.​

    Woman says her Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out to random contact
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    One more reason why getting up off the sittin' spot and dialing your thermostat by hand makes good sense. (Not to mention taping over your computer camera, and being aware that lexie might also receive directions to turn off your security system as well as tell the world that you have insulted your MIL.)
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  3. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I can see that happening. I clean for a couple that now has two Alexa's. The husband always leaves while I clean and that was always our girl time chatting while I worked. Since they set up the Alexa's I have scaled back on what I say. It is creepy because those things are always listening.
  4. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    Welcome to 1984.. Don't forget those smart TV's..
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  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Also Amazon. Also near my AO as I write this: Coming to a street near you: Facial recognition by the police via Amazon

    Listen in on us in our house, track our movements on the street... It's a sick twisted mish mash of Brave New World and 1984. China is already doing facial recognition and uses a rating system on it's subjects based on a combination of observing them through a variety of computer and AI based systems. Wonder what happens when your rating goes too low? When will that be in full force here?

    "In what’s been called a “recipe for authoritarianism and disaster,” Amazon has reportedly been selling a facial recognition software called “Rekognition” to law enforcement agencies in the United States since last fall.

    Civil-rights groups are crying foul while citing concerns about the potential misuse of such a tool, which can be utilized on a police officer’s body camera.

    Dozens of organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union, submitted a letter to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, asking the company to stop the distribution of their new tool. The statement read: “Rekognition is a powerful surveillance system readily available to violate rights and target communities of color. … With Rekognition, Amazon delivers these dangerous surveillance powers directly to the government.”

    But Amazon pushed back in an emailed statement about the program, saying that it had “many useful applications in the real world” and that the firm “requires that customers comply with the law and be responsible when they use” its products. ..."​
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  6. Seepalaces

    Seepalaces Monkey++ Site Supporter+

    My sister has Alexa all over her house. The last time we visited I think I order two hundred rolls of tp. Wow, was she angry (my sister).
  7. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    maybe Alexa thought your sister was "chitty" or a big Chit or --- well I don't want to go to far well maybe just one more --or not.

    Well too late if you have a cell phone your being eavesdropped on all your calls texts voice mails and your email if you get it through your phone if it has 2 cameras it knows who.s talking and by triangulation can spot you within 3 feet time date yada yada and that is kept permanently in 4 places around the globe in real time a new storage facility is almost up to snuff in the great state of Utah. If you have taken a DNA to check your family tree or have been in a VA facility your screwed. then for the best and last if your on facebook they know all your friends family and other contacts between that and your phone history. linked to your credit and debit cards and credit records they know the car you drive and if the insurance is current, how often you fill up if you have gone to a hotel motel or had a meal with another person. If that was not enough the traffic cams bank and private cams including baby /nanny cameras are all easily tunneled to any wireless device in a connectable distance and if your neighbor has Alexa well even if you do not have network enabled they can domino off others in your area unless your in the boondocks well if you don't have satellite coverage with a newer TV and cell phone.

    If you have the new LED bulbs resonance can listen in the wiring in your home even the plumbing of course all this is determined on how bad they want to hear your conversations as some equipment needs to be close to the source hey but remember every month someone comes by and checks your gas water or electric meter OH I forgot the new meters almost as good as Alexa.

    Buying habits any anomaly or incremental are so analyzed that they know if you on your cycle changed your deodorant or perfume / cologne they know more about your children that you ever will it is legal for anyone to put a tracker on your vehicle without a warrant because of the ubiquitous cell phone it has made your right to certain privacy mute. laser on a window is 40 years old so what new pussy cat ?
    all of your mail is tracked when it leaves and arrives what you order how much and from whom. because of medical r4ecords are being digitized all of that is in your database. the new Safe Home well if a device knows your code or you set it to automatically turn on and off your lights water the yard they know with all the other information that your not at home. there is lidar it can penetrate walls look through your ceiling under your slab and with google maps and earth and other cool spy in the sky equipment they know whats on your property or what you bring on it it can also detect if the ground has been disturbed and how deep with all that they can tell if your fastidious or a mess garbage is not protected by the constitution or your bill of rights once it's on the curb it free for the taking. and a hundred other things that I don't have the time to explain there are new weapons that make what ever you have seen obsolete some so amazing that some may seem like magic but when the rubber meets the road the human factor is still the online on time threat assessment and removal team and in the last 30 years many people have been removed just to test the waters and they found that people choose to be ignorant and rather watch a game or a reality show where there is no reality.
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  8. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Now I know why I have so many veterinary appointments....I'll have to tone down how many times I say horsesh!t around Alexa when I'm reading some SM posts.

    Apparently there has been research which has discovered that Alexa and similar devices can activate on audiio commands not detectable by human hearing hidden in white noise as background to music or advertisements, which may explain any uptick of deaths by refrigerator. :eek:
    Last edited: May 24, 2018
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Ok, don't flame me, but I gotta ask the question! How well does this "Alexa" thingy recognise accents, and slang?
    If I happen to have a Texian Drawl mixed with Ukrainian Slavic, is this thing capable of understanding me? Especially if I tweek the Texian part, or the Slavic seporatly! This could be fun. One of my buddies does Spanglish Chicano, I wonder how well Alexa understands that? Lol, I have trouble understanding it!
  10. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Little microphone "OFF" button on top fixes that eves dropping by "The Watchers".
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  11. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    certain devices can activate themselves despite the mic off button

    the off button might not really be an off button
  12. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Drill bit fixes cameras well! I drill cameras on my lap tops and other devices as I find them! Speakers and off buttons might be different though!
  13. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    If one has access to the Firmware, anything is possible... AND just like Apple’s Siri all the computing is done back at the SERVER FARM, not at the device... Which means the audio is digitized lo cal and shipped offsite to elsewhere, for processing, recording or whatever THEY want to use it for.... Duh... Not in my cabin, ever...
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  14. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

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  15. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

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  16. apache235

    apache235 Monkey++

    Give them time and they will translate pig latin too.
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  17. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    I walked into my WA neighbours house and this voice asked WHO I WAS ?? WTF ??
    I look after there farm when they break Away .
    It was this
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  18. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    So, did you get a date?
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  19. Asia-Off-Grid

    Asia-Off-Grid RIP 11-8-2018

    I don't even have a mic connected to my computer, much less that Alexa mess in my home. So, Cortana is screwed, if he / she / it thinks of sending anything I say in my home, back to mamma computer.
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  20. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I'm sure they have Klingon and Vulcan down already....Kajun might be good for a little while longer. ;)

    Further information about Alexa, Siri and Google Now responding to sub audible commands from external sources.

    Alexa and Siri are vulnerable to 'silent,' nefarious commands

    Alexa and Siri can hear hidden commands that you can't, researchers warn

    Inaudible ultrasound commands can be used to secretly control Siri, Alexa, and Google Now
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