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Am I a "Conspiracy Nut"?

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Minuteman, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    If I told you there were a group of people that were planning for the destruction of our nation, the formation of a world government, and a massive reduction of the world’s population, what would you think? Another wacky conspiracy theorist? A tin foil hat type? So who would you listen to? What if you were told the same thing by, oh say, U.S. presidents, heads of major media outlets, industrialists, Supreme Court justices, world leaders, academics, scientists? Would you believe them? Why don’t we let them do the talking.

    Is there a conspiracy to create a “New World Order?

    "We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
    James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate

    "To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas."
    G. Brock Chisholm, co-founder of the World Federation for Mental Health, former director of UN World Health Organization

    "...In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
    Richard N. Gardner, in "Foreign Affairs," April 1974

    "From the days of Sparticus, Weishophf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenburg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th Century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
    Sir Winston Churchill - Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920

    "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
    Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809

    "A world society cannot be haphazard. Since there are no precedents, it cannot be traditional at this stage of development. It can only be deliberate and experimental, planned and built up with particular objectives and with the aid of all available knowledge concerning the principles of social organization. Social engineering is a new science."
    Scott Nearing, a socialist and advocate of World Government - United World, 1944, p.221

    "...The age of nations must end... The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."
    Preliminary Draft of a World Constitution, 1948, introduced in Congress by Senator Glen Taylor in 1950

    "The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
    Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department

    "The Trilateralist Commission is international... [and] ...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
    Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona), in his book "With No Apologies"

    "This idea of a planned world-state is one to which all our thought and knowledge is tending ... It is appearing partially and experimentally at a thousand points ... its coming is likely to happen quickly."
    H.G. Wells, The Open Conspiracy: Blueprints For A World Revolution, 1928

    "Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
    Mikhail Gorbachev, before the UN, December 7, 1988

    Ok.But that will never happen in America. We will see it coming and stop it.Won’t we?

    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."
    Edward Bernays, Propaganda (1928)

    "The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."
    Albert Einstein

    "Political language . . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
    George Orwell, Politics and the English Language

    "Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the initiated few."
    Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI

    "I have the greatest admiration for your propaganda. Propaganda in the West is carried out by experts who have had the best training in the world — in the field of advertising — and have mastered the techniques with exceptional proficiency ... Yours are subtle and persuasive; ours are crude and obvious ... I think that the fundamental difference between our worlds, with respect to propaganda, is quite simple. You tend to believe yours ... and we tend to disbelieve ours."
    Soviet correspondent based five years in the U.S.

    "Language is a field of battle, the media is the artillery, and vocabulary is the ammunition. The NWO has taken the field by storm, and is proceeding with coordinated attacks on several fronts, using all the latest high-tech vocabulary ammunition. They've laid a bed of land mines that cripple us when we try to stand on them: 'liberalism', conservatism', prosperity', 'democracy'."
    Richard Moore, Doublespeak

    "All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself."
    Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol. I

    "By symbols is man guided and commanded, made happy, made wretched. He everywhere finds himself surrounded with symbols, recognized as such or not recognized."
    Thomas Carlyle, Sartor Resartus

    "The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands."
    Spiro Agnew, U. S. Vice-President, 13 November 1969

    But we have a free press.Garaunteed by the constitution. They would warn us. Right?

    There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.
    There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.
    The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?
    We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.
    John Swinton, New York Times editor, in a speech before the New York Press Club 1888

    "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. ... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
    David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany

    "The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
    Commission On Freedom Of The Press

    "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
    William Colby (Former CIA Director)

    "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers."
    Thomas Jefferson (1743 -1826)

    Our political leaders wouldn’t allow our country to be subverted. Would they?

    "The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
    Benjamin Disraeli, 1844

    "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."
    Theodore Roosevelt

    "...those who formally rule take their signals and commands, not from the electorate as a body, but from a small group of men (plus a few women). This group will be called the Establishment. It exists even though that existence is stoutly denied; it is one of the secrets of the American social order. A second secret is the fact that the existence of the Establishment - the ruling class - is not supposed to be discussed. A third secret is implicit in what has been said - that there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.' The Republicans and the Democrats are in fact two branches of the same (secret) party."
    Arthur S. Miller, George Washington University law professor, The Secret Constitution and The Need For Constitutional Change, p.3

    "The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or, what is most important of all, the banker of the backer."
    Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12

    "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
    Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice

    "The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
    Frank Zappa, musician and cultural iconoclast

    So who are these mysterious people behind the scenes and where did they come from?

    "The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... runs our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen... [and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
    John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York 1918-1925

    "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
    James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
    Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
    Thomas Jefferson

    "This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalized... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."
    Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.

    "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
    Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855

    What do they plan to do? And how?

    "We are going to end up with world government. It's inevitable ... There's going to be conflict, coercion and consensus. That's all part of what will be required as we give birth to the first global civilization."
    James Garrison, president, Gorbachev Foundation USA; quoted in The Daily Record, Dunn, NC, p.4 10/17/95

    "I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Government, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there!"
    Congressman Ron Paul at an event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, 2003

    "Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order, to efficiency of operation, to scientific advancement and the like."
    William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice

    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and thus clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
    H.L. Mencken

    "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
    Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
    Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), American editor, critic

    "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
    Henry Kissinger, Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderberg meeting

    "...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."
    H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan, Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M. Evans and Company

    "The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable."
    U. S. Privacy Study Commission, 1977

    Ok. But would a united world government be so bad? Wouldn’t it be for the good of all mankind?

    "The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size."
    Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131

    "Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license ... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
    David Brower - first Executive Director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute - quoted by Dixie Lee Ray, Trashing the Planet, p.166

    "The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man."
    Merton Lambert - former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation - Harpeth Journal, December 18, '62

    "One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God's selection process for planet earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death."
    Psychologist Barbara Marx Hubbard - member of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank

    "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
    Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95

    "A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
    Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '96

    Our leaders would never condone or support that? Would they?

    "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we will henceforth pledge our allegiance."
    George Herbert Walker Bush, Speech at the UN, February 1, 1992

    "There ought to be limits to freedom."
    Governor George W Bush, May 21, 1999

    "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities."
    President Bill Clinton, 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"

    "There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
    Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961

    But people couldn’t be that cold hearted? After all we are a Christian nation aren’t we?

    "[The British oligarchy's] religion is not the Anglican Christianity they publicly profess, but a hodgepodge of paganism, including satanic cults such as Theosophy and Rosicrucianism [neither is genuine]. The central, syncretic ideology of the oligarchy's inner cult life is the revived Egyptian drug cult, the myth of Isis and Osiris, the same anti-Christian cult that ran the Roman Empire. And like the ancient Isis-worshipping Egyptian dynasties, the British ruling family networks have maintained power for centuries by keeping the secrets of their intrigues WITHIN THE FAMILY."
    Dope, Inc.: The Book that Drove Henry Kissinger Crazy, by EIR; Part 3, Ch 10: The Families Behind the Drug Empire

    "Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."
    David Rockefeller, on record as stating in 1973 about Mao Tse-tung: (NY Times 8-10-73)

    "Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition."
    Peter Singer (father of the animal rights movement), The Deweese Report, November 1998

    "There are no innocent civilians, so it doesn't bother me so much to be killing innocent bystanders."
    General Curtis E. LeMay

    So what do you believe now? Here are some closing thoughts.

    "History teaches us that man learns nothing from history."
    George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

    "The exact contrary of what is generally believed is often the truth."
    Jean de la Bruyère

    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
    Sir Winston Churchill

    Seems like there are quite a few “conspiracy nuts” out there
    Brokor likes this.
  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Yes minuteman, you are a conspiracy nut and as such should be one of the first to be issued a tracking implant. Did you ever see the V-chip episode on SouthPark?
    We are all conspiracy nuts and wouldn't even be here if there were a more plausible answer. Just because we may seem paranoid does nothing to change the fact that they are out to get us.
  3. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    me too
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    You are, as are most of us. Paranoia is a state of mind --- [rofllmao]
  6. TLynn

    TLynn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Only if you can prove they are not out to get you.

    I can't prove that...therefore I'm not paranoid [peep]
  7. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I'm not paranoid, i'm just ..................suspicious. :shock: [tf] [tinfoil101] [bedtime]
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    And so, since when is logic a factor? :p
  9. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    And yet another video to do my talking for me. Remember the john birch society? I thought they died out after conmmunism fell. No, they are big into the u.n. world government takeover stuff; heres one of their vids covers alot .Gungrabbing, bureau of family planning etc...you guys really need cable or dsl modems.5 outta 5 stars on google video

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  10. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Are you a conspiracy nut.... public opinion would say yes.

    Welcome to the club brother :)
  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    "The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or, what is most important of all, the banker of the backer."Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12--- Good stuff.
  12. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    [​IMG]That's what i like about this place i can roll out the foil and wallow in it..
    and its ok ; It is okay isn't it?? yall don't think I've gone completely nutter do ya?The real question is wouldja' mind if i did?
  13. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    [fnny]I think it's safe to say you can wobble off the deep end any time you want to around here. And, if needed, we can point out how to do a self-prefrontal lobotomy if you get too uncomfortable in the foil hat.[booze]
  14. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Oh no you're not puttin another icepick up my nose!![​IMG]
  15. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    Attention. From now on the PC way is to be adhered to. We will no longer use the term Conspiracy Nut. The PC label is 'Well Advised That They Will Get Me, Hard Shelled Legume.' [LMAO]

    Seriously, I have heard that a little fear can keep you on your toes and alive, therefore I see being a 'conspiracy nut' as just being a little prepped for that moment of fear. :D

    Label me what you will. Paranoid, conspiracy nut, psycho. It doesn't matter. What matters is that when all is said and done, I will have seen it all coming while others that hid their heads in the sand are wondering why their rears hurt.

    Just my thought.
  16. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

  17. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    WOW! That's an oldie. Over a year old. I had forgotten about it. Had to re- read it. Pretty good stuff there. I'll have to go back and look at some more of them old posts.Thanks for breathing new life into it T3!!
  18. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    [winkthumb]I get caught up in the "like thread "listings at the botom of each thread and never remember to look at the dates .Alot of good reading archived..just wringing out my monkey...
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