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ANOTHER ammo price hike coming

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by groovy mike, May 21, 2008.

  1. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    Not only are the wars sucking the ammo supply dry driving prices up,
    AND asia developing industries pulling in every bit of metal they can buy driving the prices up,
    AND the shooting world buying up ammo and driving the price up becuase they fear it is going up,
    AND the global demand for fertilizer draining nitrates from powder manufacturers -

    BUT there is ALSO an election comming and EVERY major candidate is no friend of gun owners.
    EXPECT ammo taxes.
    EXPECT new import bans.
    EXPECT "assault feature" bans.


    If you don't put $50 into 22 ammo today, don't whine to me when its 10 cents a cartridge. There's no reason not to buy a brick of 22 each paycheck unless you already have a large supply on hand.

    If you don't buy centerfire ammo and reloading supplies now, don't blame me when you can't afford to later.

    The same is true for shotgunners as it is for rifle shooters.

    Its just gonna get worse. If you haven't already stocked up. Its going to cost you more now. But if you wait. It's just gonna be worse.
  2. BigO01

    BigO01 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    You're right Mike it's only gonna get worse especialy with the damn Oil companies now needing to make 50 billion + in profits .
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Now that it has hit the MSM, stocks will be depleted rather quickly, I think.
  4. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Here in Phoenix, I have had NO success in getting reloading supplies for either my shotgun shells, nor for my .38/.357 cartridges!
    I was told by the local "Outdoor Sportsman's" manager, that they receive their monthly shipments the first Thursday every month. Well, I have stood at their doors waiting for them to open, and for the past 8-9 months, there are NO supplies coming in,... OR,.... someone has already "spoken" for them, althought it is SUPPOSED to be "First come, first served" basis! NO shot, and NO powders! ( ??? )
    The prices there have risen as much as $7.00 a box, overnight, whereas, "Wallyworld's" prices have remained the same?
  5. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Also, I see recently .22 Lr's have gone through the roof!
    They were $8.99 for a "brick" of 500 to 600 rounds....
    Today the same, (with less rounds) 500, cost $27.00!
    What a price increase!
    Since I shoot 4 different .22's, that really cuts into the budget!
    Too bad I can't reload those babies!
  6. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    Go through MidwayUsa for reloading supplies.
    I'm am also doing the unthinkable, reloading Berdan primed cases, found the only U.S. importer for berdan primers, but it cuts my general blasting ammo cost signifigantly and am able to set alot of ammo aside for that socalled rainy day.
  7. Nomad 2nd

    Nomad 2nd Monkey+++

    I understand it's Up 10-15% in June and another as much as 20% in September...
  8. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    Great plan RouteClearence. Almost nobody bothers with Berdan primers.

    Does midway carry Berdan primers and the priming tool? I've been looking for them for awhile. I have a friend who reloads Berdan primed ammo, but his supplier no longer carries Berdan primers.

    I've been buying up ammo and reloading supplies for the past few years whenever I have found a bargain (gunshops, estate sales, etc). At current market prices my investment in shooting supplies has more than doubled in the past two years. That beats the heck out of investing in the stock market! The only trouble is that if I sold anything, there would be no profit because I wouldn't be able to restock. Now I'm wishing that I had been smart enough to buy up shotgunning supplies too. That's what I'm looking for now.

    I have come to the conclusion that the prices that used to be "market rate" are now the bargains to look for. If you can find ammo or reloading supplies that aren't OUTRAGEOUSLY priced, buy it.

    If you think you have enough on hand, remember that you are not only buying for next season - but for the rest of your life. We're more likely to see gasoline at $1 a gallon again than to see cheap ammo. I'm not just making fun of Hillary when I say that you should be buying "for the children." The next generation may not be able to buy ammo at any price.
  9. RevBushmaster

    RevBushmaster When in doubt use more C4

    I agree when we have a few extra coins it would be a good idea to buy ammo or supplies. Any supplies. I am amazed that with the outrageous price of fuel everything has not skyrocketed! Crude oil not only transports our products to market, it is in most of the products that we transport! Plastics, clothing, medicines etc. I think I better learn to reload asap. And work on my green thumb. And learn to can. And to butcher (I many become a vegan yet)....and...and....suddenly its late isn't it?

    ; }>
  10. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    It IS late, but not too late.

    The longer you wait, the harder it will be.

    I doubled the garden size this year. With rice, wheat, and corn prices soaring it looks like the perfect time to plant a LOT of potatoes. The first year's harvest will liekly be low because you have not yet developed your soil, but if you don't already have a garden NOW is the time to start. It's even the right time of year. I advise buying 'heirloom' ie 'open pollinated' seeds so that you can replant from your own seeds in years to come.

    Butchering isn't hard as long as you don't need it to look pretty. Just keep the meat clean and cool and seperate it from what you don't want to eat in freezer bag sized chunks. You can dice or slice it to individual portion size when you thaw the bag.

    If you don't know how to hunt, fish, forage, and / or raise livestock and poultry - the time to learn is YEARS BEFORE you are hungry.
  11. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Krieg H√ľndchen

    There are reports of nitrate shortages going to be another ammo price driving factor. I just bought some more reloading components at Sportsmans Warehouse. They were totally out of Winchester primers, so I bought CCI primers instead. They said Winchester isn't giving them much right now.
  12. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    http://magnumimports.co.nz/cubecart/index.php Magnum Imports are the sole U.S. importer of Berdan Primers now. 115.00 per 2000+ 15.00 Hazmat fee. Now then, as for decapping berdan primers, DO NOT buy the RCBS tool. It does work, but if the primer is crimped, which all surplus Mil. ammo is, the RCBS tool will not last for very long. http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/berdanreloadingpt3/pdf/berdanreloading3.pdf
    This is the cheapest and most effective means of decapping berdan primers. I wish their was a better way, but this is it.
  13. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

  14. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    GOOD HEAVENS! Are those prices what primers are bringing now in the general market? Over 6 cents EACH???

    Last time I bought primers they were $17 per thousand. I thought they might be double what I paid, but that's more than triple!

    Is this really the market price of is this guy just pricing high?
    Are they listed in New Zealand dollars?

    What are prices going for in your neck of the woods?
  15. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    The import fees for explosive materials is why they are so expensive
  16. overbore

    overbore Monkey++

    Route Clearance, our brain waves must have been cloned "back when" as our logic runs along the same path. For the Newbies, "Two points always determine a straight line" meaning if you follow the actions/events, two data points, project ahead and you can see what is going to be; also, look to the past, it is the future coming around the bend. WE do not drill here, there, or anywhere and now there is an increase in prices--duuh!!!
    Food is made into fuel and the price for groceries spikes---duuh!
    Our dollar is devalued by overspending and import prices spike---duuh!
    Components are in short supply and inventory should be on your shelves---Quite logical!!
    Paper money is becoming wallpaper- convert it into usable stuff--hard currencies or coins ---look at Germany before Hitler. One 'barrow load of Marks for one loaf of bread--.
    Gardening: Jerusalem artichokes are easier than 'taters to grow and they are hard to keep from thriving!!!
  17. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    dont tell me your just only now stocking up
  18. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Well, looks like target shooting will be pretty well limited to the .22s and need to increase the stores on those to....think Im down to about 10-15k rounds or so on that, about half of one of the claymore fuse cans of bulk loose .22s and 2-3 bricks on top.
  19. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Have Dillon will travel [chopper]
  20. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    Yep I started the sunchoke bed last season [beer], asparagus, rhubarb, and horseradish the year before that too....
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