Anybody like the .410 shotgun?

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Tango3, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Useful : has its place in a survival battery?

    23 vote(s)
  2. Naw(wasteof money): Does nothing a 12or 20 won't do better/cheaper with proper loads.

    6 vote(s)
  1. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Yep...I have one and believe it or not...It shoots better (for me) than a 12 ga. rabbit hunting...However the only down turn now is the price of the shell's...
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  2. Gafarmboy

    Gafarmboy Monkey+++

    Not a professional , but

    The old .410 is much more challenging to shoot than your average 12/20 gauge shotty. The shot pattern is much tighter, requiring the shooter to be more accurate. Much more accurate. Raise my boys on a Steven's .410 breech loader that I was given at the age of 6 or 7. It has been through the mill, several times. When the boys transitioned from the ol' Steven to the Rems 870 they thought it was the easiest weapon on the planet to shoot. They constantly said " You barely have to aim this thing". It was a wise choice on my part of raise them on the 410 and then get them BIG BOY Shotguns at the age of 12.
    FWIIW- I read some where that a 410 slug has the same knock down as a 357. Don't know if it is true as I have never been shot with either one, so I just don't know and hope that I never will.:oops::)

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  3. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    My first shotgun was a 410 and although I cannot prove what you said I do believe it also.
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  4. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    My third Saiga is a .410 currently being converted back to AK configuration with the appropriate parts to stay legal.

    It's a kick to shoot and, between handloads and some pretty decent antipersonel commercial ammo, a 20 round box mag can take out a lot of mutant zombie bikers...
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  5. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    buying shells last night I see wal-wart has new mossy500's(.410) in the gun rack for $217.00 new...
    and.. I went to dunhams to pickup a scope for my trusty old marlin 25 .22lr boltgun they have the Marlin xt-22 bolt guns on salefor $180.00! "Nutnfancy" did a screaming video review of these. damn, decisions decisions.....
    We'll see how the ..410 shoots today.Never can have "too many" .22's though!

    Marlin XT-22 & 925: "American .22 Precision" by Nutnfancy - YouTube
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  6. goinpostal

    goinpostal Monkey+++

    Saiga's:.410ga,.20ga.,.12ga,.223,7.62x39,.308,30.06,9x53r,and the AK74 round(dont remember the caliber).
  7. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

  8. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    4 round mags come with. Any larger on the market?
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  9. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Shot the mossy pump today: It's, got more "snot" than I expected... just small (#6's full choke; fairly dense) pattern: be tough squirrel to eat (lots of pellets in paper squirrel target, )000 buck is kinda' impressive too.) Not a "pipsqueak" round by any means...

    fist sized pattern at about 15 yards.I 'm Not convinced .410 has enough advantages over skilled use of the the .22lr rifle.

    Still like my .22's. for small game hunting recreational or "survival"use..
  10. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    Yes...8, 12 and 20 boxes...also heard someone has a drum. Got my 20 rounders from CDNN
  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    If you only had a 410, then it's better that nothing. With time to prep I would not even consider it over the 20 or 12. Ammo is very expensive and not nearly as lethal as the other 2 and after SHTF will be hard to find. All three can take small game, but if you want to take anything from deer to zombies or bigger the 410 is inadequate.

    Below is a link to 410 load testing in a Taurus Judge, I know it's not the same as a shotgun, but they also tried a couple shots with a shotgun on the last page. Still not impressive considering the range tested.

    The Box O' Truth #53 - The Taurus Judge, Revisited - Page 1
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  12. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    My local Wally's has the Taurus Circuit Judge revolver carbine - I couldn't believe when I saw it in their rifle display! But the $500 price tag is a bit steep for what would be pretty much a toy, and can't be used (legally) at my local range (shotguns are banned - period!).
    Still, it piques my interest as I do like 'oddball' guns.
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  13. forestdavegump

    forestdavegump Got ur 6, Bubba.

    Here we reload a bit! .410 is $9 and up a box, Some 20 gauge is still $4.99 on sale. Prices are up everywhere and what do you do? Reload. eBay has the Lee classic loader for .410 quite a bit and that would help with reloading on the cheap. For us the .410 is a small game and round for the smaller framed folks. Great fun and still works for that. Some SD it works too, I feel there are better options for me. It would be a great addition as the Mossberg .410 is a great shotgun and a good companion gun for some one who has a Taurus Judge or if another in you party has a .410 weapon(ie M6 scout) or Marlin 444. We just feel the need to have people able to use similar calibers in a pinch!
    Also a chamber insert for a 20g or 12g and every one can shoot .410!
    Get it by now you probably did!
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  14. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    I'll be keeping mine, if not for me for the wife, DIL, and granddaughters. I can still handle the .12 for most of what I use a shotgun for.
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  15. forestdavegump

    forestdavegump Got ur 6, Bubba.

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