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Anybody monitoring the Ebola outbreak ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by NotSoSneaky, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    I've been following the stories on Drudge Report. There's three today, last couple of weeks there was only one or two new ones per week. This is the nastiest and scariest bug I've ever seen. The disease has jumped borders into at least three countries and considering the lack of infrastructure there may be many, many more active cases of Ebola than the media is telling us.

    The death toll reported has varied from 200 to over 600+ depending on the source, now one source is changing the way they report deaths from Ebola to downplay the reported deaths and claiming "It can't happen here.".

    The World Health Organization seems to think differently;
    Each of the affected countries has at least one international airport. If this bug jumps out of Africa this could be very bad news for many of us.

    I'm kinda surprised at the lack of discussion on this here.
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  2. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    IMO the risk of spreading over to the U.S. seems to be low at this time. The outbreak appears to be regional in nature and is spreading by virtue of improper medical procedures, tribal belief systems in relation to medical care and poor vaccination programs. If one was to travel to Africa at this time, I would be highly concerned. But here at home, I think it spreading amongst the population at large is preventable. Maybe @alaskachick could chime in, as I assume she has much better field knowledge on this region medically than most any of us here.
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  3. nkawtg

    nkawtg Monkey

    Not really, if it comes to the U.S. I'll pay attention.
    As bad as Ebola is, the one bright side to it is it kills the host very quickly, that in turn limits the spread and makes control simpler.
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    The real issues in Africa, at the moment, seems to be, folks just do NOT like Quarantine, and just don't seem t want to stay and die in the "Quarantine Location"..... So they run, and hide, and infect others.... It only takes ONE Carrier, to leave Africa, and go to London, or another Air Travel HUB, and things will get sticky, Real Quick.... The only Saving Grace, in all this is, that Quarantine, in Second and First World Countries can, and will be enforced, by Death, is necessary. My Opinion..... YMMV....
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  5. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    This outbreak has been on-going since March. They really cannot get a true number of death because many just bury their dead without reporting it. So far it has not come to the US and even if it did, it may not get media reporting. Remember this has been going on since March and I cannot recall seeing any travel warnings. I know some lady leaving for Africa next week, having said that you can see officials don't seem concerned otherwise there would be travel restrictions in place.
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Yup. Unfortunately, it's not really an outbreak we need to worry about over here until it leaves the African region and enters a hub. All bets would be off after that, though. Sometimes speculative discussion is good, but with a topic such as this, it's also kind of based on specialists and boots on the ground. No sense in exaggerating this, because it's extremely deadly. No sense speculating too much, because there is no major city hub infected yet. I would keep an eye out for anything popping up in Europe or any trade hub from the African continent, especially warmer climate zones.
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  7. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Its really the lack of media attention which gives me pause for thought.
  8. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    why, they are to busy running cover for Barry, attempting to protect him from impeachment when they loose the senate in the fall.
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  9. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Aha it begins. [OO]

    Might not be here at the moment but it's just a matter of time now methinks. maddd
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  10. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    I'm trying to find a map of the affected area from march to compare this map to, but it appears the epidemic is growing.


    As Motomom34 said "They really cannot get a true number of death because many just bury their dead without reporting it" This is exactly what is being reported in the few news articles being reported. The death toll is most likely much higher.

    It'll be about 6 weeks before we know for sure if this bug had jumped out of the continent.
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  11. mitzip

    mitzip Monkey

    I'm heading to East Africa soon. I've been watching this very closely, from the beginning.
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2014
  12. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Alaskachick flew to NYC, on Thursday Morning, to brief a New Dr's w/o Boarders Team heading to the Turkish/Syria Boarder that will be dealing with Syrian Refugees, in the Camps, just across the Boarder. Part of that Briefing is to bring them "Up to date" on the Outfits Policies and Procedures, in dealing with Infectious Diseases, that the Refugees are bringing with them, into already crowded Camps. When she finishes with this assignment, she will go to their Training Facility in Rochester, NY, and be Training a New Team that will be going to Western Africa, where this is certainly a BIG Issue. There are Folks, and Outfits that ARE dealing with this issue, however the LOCAL Conditions, and Politics, make it very hard to contain such outbreaks, as has been seen in the above Posts. .....
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  13. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    I've neither met nor corresponded with her but I'll be keeping her and her team in my prayers.
    She's going to need all the help she can get.
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  14. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    As long as nobody in Mexico gets ebola, we are safe for the time being.
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  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Pushing nearly 1,000 cases and over 600 deaths WHO | Ebola virus disease, West Africa – update

    If they cannot contain this and see a decline in cases, this could get very bad.

    What I find interesting at first glance, is the outbreak locations and severity. From the data I have gathered, no documented outbreaks have occurred in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone previously, but this is where it is happening. Out of all the data, the prior outbreaks have taken place in the following African countries:


    Ebola first appeared in 1976 in 2 simultaneous outbreaks, in Nzara, Sudan, and in Yambuku, Democratic Republic of Congo. The latter was in a village situated near the Ebola River, from which the disease takes its name.

    Genus Ebolavirus is 1 of 3 members of the Filoviridae family (filovirus), along with genus Marburgvirus and genus Cuevavirus. Genus Ebolavirus comprises 5 distinct species:

    • Bundibugyo ebolavirus (BDBV)
    • Zaire ebolavirus (EBOV)
    • Reston ebolavirus (RESTV)
    • Sudan ebolavirus (SUDV)
    • Taï Forest ebolavirus (TAFV).
    BDBV, EBOV, and SUDV have been associated with large EVD outbreaks in Africa, whereas RESTV and TAFV have not. The RESTV species, found in Philippines and the People’s Republic of China, can infect humans, but no illness or death in humans from this species has been reported to date. -LINK-

    The EBOV (Zaire) and SUDV (Sudan) species appear to be the most troublesome thus far, and I am wondering which species we are talking about with the current outbreak in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If anybody can track down this information as soon as possible, I would appreciate it.
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2014
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  17. mitzip

    mitzip Monkey

    Zaire is the cause of current outbreak.

    Sorry, no reference, on mobile.
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  18. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Oh, man. That's terrible. EBOV was gonna be my guess by the severity. Yeah, this is the worst Ebola outbreak yet, let's hope they can contain it. The Zaire (EBOV) species seems to be the most prevalent and also has the highest fatality rating if my math is correct.
  19. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

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  20. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    Hemorrhaghic fever is scary. There is one variant though, that doesn't do anything(at least for humans). I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but it begins with R. What I remember from my research a few months back, BEST case scenario is 25% fatalities. Worst case, 90% or so. And I read somewhere that some new research on it says that men can be carriers(via sex) for up to seven weeks after being 'cured'.
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