Are we a Godless Nation?

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by tacmotusn, Nov 10, 2009.


  1. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Well after reading the following, I for one, think not!!! [stirpot] ;) seesaw
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    President Barack Obama said in Turkey : "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation... We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

    I found this very interesting. Do you know the Preamble for your state?

    Be sure to read the message at the bottom!


    Alabama 1901, Preamble
    We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution

    Alaska 1956, Preamble
    We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land...

    Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

    Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

    California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

    Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe....

    Connecticut 1818, Preamble The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.

    Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences...

    Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...

    Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

    Hawaii 1959, Preamble We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.

    Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings...

    Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

    Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.

    Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the St ate of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.

    Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution

    Kentucky 1891, Preamble
    We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

    Louisiana 1921, Preamble
    We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy

    Maine 1820, Preamble
    We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction...

    Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

    Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We, the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction

    Michigan 1908, Preamble
    We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution

    Minnesota, 1857, Preamble
    We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:

    Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work

    Missouri 1845, Preamble
    We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution...

    Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution...

    Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, Establish this Constitution.

    Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution...

    New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

    New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

    New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty...

    New York 1846, Preamble
    We, the people of the State of New York , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

    North Carolina 1868, Preamble We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those...

    North Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

    Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common.

    Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this

    Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences

    Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble
    We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance...

    Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...

    South Carolina, 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

    South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ...

    Tennessee 1796, Art. XI..III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

    Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

    Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

    Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man...

    Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other.

    Washington 1889, Preamble
    We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution.

    West Virginia 1872, Preamble
    Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God.

    Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...

    Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution...


    After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect
    that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong! If you found this to be 'food for thought', send to as many as you think will be enlightened, as I hope you were.
     
  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I am Atheist and proud of it. I think that a person does not need belief in a "God" to be a decent person, and further, I know that it is crucial to separate religion from politics. However, as our history as a nation proves to us, the use of religion in the past did act as a glue to bind some people together. Today, I like to think that people still utilize religion in a positive manner, even if it is used on a greater scale to commit mass genocide without fear of accusation. I pride myself on NOT being of the same mind or "spiritual level" as others; as I am an individual and NOT a part of the assimilated BORG HIVE -I choose to think freely, and I live free from the constraints of other people's deluded thoughts because I hold no stock in their policy.

    I also see nothing wrong with what Obama said -I don't support the banking elite, but at least I have the courage to admit that there is no story here. I am not trying to seek out phantoms in the night; as I do not have a religion to guide me in the wrong direction, believing that every other person is out to "get me". As far as misery is concerned, it does love to have company -and I don't see a "700 Club" for Atheists on television. Only a vulgar mind would insist on its own way, and not one single Atheist is out there trying to con you into believing that some mystical jewish ZOMBIE is going to save your soul as long as you donate and attend their weekly gatherings.

    Just face it. Religion is going out of style -with the information age well in swing, there are increasing numbers of people who just aren't buying the scare tactics and fables of the past. On the other hand, the mind-share and consumer craze lifestyles are quickly taking strong hold; but out of all of the people in this nation, I believe that the non-religious crowd has the best advantage. After all, they aren't the ones attending church just to compare clothing and gossiping. ;)

    My intentions aren't meant to offend -just offer the opposite perspective. I am not posting this to start an argument or debate. I intend on only posting this single time and leaving this thread forever. So, have at me if you must...but I am hoping that your better, "Christian" nature will surface. No person can take your beliefs away from you -even if they can influence your thoughts and suck you in to a hopeless pit of lies and deceit.

    Again, this is not meant to be an insult to the "religious" crowd. I just don't see your problem. I see no attack on your religion -but I do know that the religious in this nation are the first to beat the war drums, and I know that they are also quick to point fingers and cry "wolf" just to draw in more unsuspecting believers and to create added support for their ideologies. Just relax. Nobody is trying to collectively destroy Christianity -the evil "Lucifer" is not out to get you, and the sooner you see this, perhaps the better...but I don't really care, so there it is. What you are experiencing is the change of each individual over time. The individual is changing, as all progress is measured in this manner. To not change is to stagnate; to rot.

    Sorry if I offended you or any who happen across my tiny beacon of logic.
     
  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    As an American, I still love this country, and will until my death. As a retired Military man, I served so that others could enjoy the freedoms offered by our Constitution. Include among those freedoms, the right of free speech, and the religious freedom to worship your own God, or no god at all. No further laws are required (such as Hate crime laws) to protect any specific religion or lack there of. This Country WAS FOUNDED AS A CHRISTIAN NATION no matter what you or others may think. Our founders were wise in including religious freedom so that this Country would not become a one minded theocracy. Organized religion of every thread has been responsible for untold deaths and genicide in the past. I am no fan of any organized religion. Those who believe in Jesus Christ and the Bible need not believe in a specific dogma of a specific Organized Christian sect to reap the rewards of eternal life. My religion is one of peace. I as a Christian Individual am not the one to condemn or judge you for what you believe or do not believe. I wish you peace harmony and happiness. I would like for you to accept and honor me as I honor you. I would hope that my Lord and Saviour show you the light, and reach into your heart and give you peace as well. I am not a pacifist however, and I will not have any dogma rammed down my throat in the name of political correctness in the land of the free and home of the brave. I am perfectly willing to discuss this in a civil manner as long as all in the discussion do same.
     
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