as it should be

Discussion in 'Politics' started by beast, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    too many times all we see in the news is the bad

    Kelly Thomas: D.A. charges two officers with murder, manslaughter

    September 21, 2011 | 11:16 am
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    Two Fullerton police officers have been criminally charged in the violent confrontation that left a homeless man dead, Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas announced Wednesday.
    kelly-thomas-related-charges-p1-small. Officer Manuel Ramos has been charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter in connection with the beating of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas, a homeless schizophrenic man. Officer Jay Cicinelli has been charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force.
    Document: Charges against police
    Rackauckas said the department reviewed 151 witness statements, videos of the beating, medical reports and police statements.
    The district attorney's office had been awaiting the coroner's determination on the cause of death before deciding whether to file charges.
    Photos: Kelly Thomas death
    Officers approached Kelly Thomas on July 5 at the bus depot in downtown Fullerton while responding to a report of someone trying to break into cars. According to witness accounts, Thomas ran when officers attempted to search his bag. Exactly what happened next is unclear, but witnesses said they saw multiple officers hitting Kelly and shooting him with a Taser while he was on the ground.
    Officials from the district attorney's office have said they were awaiting toxicology and other test results from the coroner before making a decision on the case. That report was handed over to the district attorney's office Tuesday, but the findings were not made public.

    Thomas, a 37-year-old homeless man with schizophrenia, was a regular presence in downtown Fullerton. He died five days after the confrontation, after being removed from life support.
    Earlier this month, an attorney representing the Thomas family released hospital records that showed Thomas had tested negative for drugs and alcohol and that the immediate cause of death was "brain death" due to "head trauma" from the incident.
    The hospital records released showed that he suffered brain injuries, a shattered nose, a smashed cheekbone, broken ribs and severe internal bleeding. Thomas also had been shocked with a stun gun "multiple" times, including in the left chest near the heart, the records showed.
    Thomas' father, Ron, has been pushing the district attorney's office to file charges against the officers, and the case has sparked a furious reaction, including weekly protests outside the police station and a recall campaign against three City Council members.
  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Well it is about time..... should be an interesting Case to watch in court.....
  3. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    If enforcers of the law

    are, prima facie, not upholding the law themselves....then they should be held accountable to the law for their actions. Let the evidence be tested and weighed with regard to due legal processes and a judgement be made.
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  4. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Im glad to see that the homless guy will get some justice and it is sad when it takes the loss of life to bring justice. All I hope is when people watch this trial that they can see and understand. That the ones who comitted this crime are thugs no different than any other peice of low life crap that would do this to another human. Yes they wore a badge and tarnished the badge and disgraced the brotherhood of protector's. These men were wolve's in sheep's clothing, they were criminals to begin with and they used a honorable profession to mask themselves. ( So To The People Judge Them As Men And The Trash That They Are. Please Don't Judge The Profession ) They do not now or at any time ever deserve to be called a police officer.
    STANGF150, Cephus, BTPost and 3 others like this.
  5. Opinionated

    Opinionated Monkey+


    if these accusations prove true . . .

    They are far far worse than that. They are wolves in sheepdog's clothing.

    If there has ever been a justifiable application of the death penalty . . . :mad:
    Alpha Dog and ghrit like this.
  6. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Instead of "Old Sparky"

    Stun gunning them to death???? Now that would be a nice irony.
  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    We all really do not need to worry about what will happen to them if these two Miscreants are convicted, and sent to Komifornia State Prison. Have you ANY idea what the life expectancy of a Felony convicted exCop is in Prison? About half of that of a Second Lt. in his first Combat Command, where the Platoon Sargent Hates his Guts.... .... YMMV.....
  8. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    That's not punishment

    It's an occupational hazard for former cops that don't themselves obey the laws that they were required to enforce. Felons usually hold ex police officer felons to a higher standard of morality in the prison community than they usually hold themselves to, and take not a little pleasure in reminding former cops of their fall from grace and power.
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