AVG and Ad-Aware - resource hogs

Discussion in 'Technical' started by melbo, Nov 9, 2010.


  1. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I just uninstalled AVG and Ad-Aware on my Windows 7 laptop after realizing that they were responsible for my out of memory errors.

    This box has 4 GB or RAM and I was regularly using 86% of it with only a few things open. After removed, I'm back down to 36% RAM used.

    I know that Windows will typically consume whatever is available to it vs. linux but this was ridiculous.

    Little red flag in my task bar now.
    [booze]
     
  2. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Just wipe out the hard drive, get a usb flash drive for storage and boot from a knoppix cdrom. once you shut the system down. all the evidence goes away (mostly)

    No more virus nor malware to drag your pc into the abyss again.
    [boozingbuddies]
     
  3. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I'm primarily a Linux guy already. This box started out as a Windows 7 test but I've kept it for iTunes.

    I run Dreamlinux from virtual box most of the time. Also have arch, chakra, mint and ubuntu Vboxes.

    I was just surprised by the resources that both of these used.


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  4. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    avg use to be a great product. Now it is as you say. a freaking memory hog and very intrusive. I'm using avast now. not too bad on the resources but I still am not enthusiastic with it. Also have ESET on a couple of windows boxes.

    I've done Linux distros Mandrake , Unbuntu, RedHat. I loved Mandrakes installer and used it for proxy/firewall at office. freaking great, it runs on older hardware that Windowz won't even boot on, and it's fast. Love Linux. But writing code for MS OS pays the bills. So i guess i'm in their camp until the big old solar flares wipe them all out so i can go back to farming [sheep]
     
  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Full blown ubuntu with Gnome dashboard loaded with little widgets and lot's of eye candy sips about 450 MB while watching video, solving the Bible Code and creating Cyrillic recursives in the background
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Ditched both AdAware and AVG last spring. Memory, I have, but they were processor resource hogs. I have Avira on the laptop (Vista), it takes a LONG time to scan, but it is unobtrusive while operating; lets you set the pace. The desktop has Spybot S&D, Malwarebytes, ARO and Spyware Terminator. Collectively, they catch stuff, most of which is benign. I've had no problems with hackers lately, other than a trojan that ST found a month or so back. All this on Windows XP.
     
  7. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I think I was letting them run in the background as much as they wanted. I NEVER let them install the 'ask' toolbar or whatever spyware they want to install along with themselves.

    Still, Windows is devouring about 2199MB of memory as I type (only 53%) and with both of the above running, It was happily telling me to close programs and then not letting me close them gracefully.

    I ran windows for years without any AV as a test and had no problems, well no more than you've had ghrit while running all your arsenal. I've pretty careful in my clickage.
     
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Careful clickage is good. What I like is these things that warn me that I'm about to do something stupid. I ignored them once. Not gonna happen again.
     
  9. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Scareware is suckering a lot of people into clicking on the "Yes!, save my system!" popup that looks official.
     
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Spyware flagged that one, and has picked up a couple others that may have been legit, but wanted money for the privilege of entering your memory. So soon old, so late smart, but I didn't bite.
     
  11. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Guy at work was surfing for unmentionables on his work laptop at home and bit on a scareware and then got to enjoy popup hell for a few minutes. He got so paranoid that IT was going to see where he'd been that he paid the $49.95 advertised by the scareware to 'fix' the computer. It didn't help and I had to help him scrub his hard drive before he sent it back to IT for a replacement laptop. Some odd interests in internet video that guy has...
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    There are reasons some folks maintain a dedicated machine ---.
     
  13. Conagher

    Conagher Dark Custom Rider Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I run malwarebytes as a secondary spyware removal tool, but I run Microsoft Security Essentials as it has a built in real time spyware detection and anti-virus application all-in-one. It is free and it works very well.
     
  14. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    I have been running for AVG for over 2 years with no problems, and last month renewed and now cannot get rid of their "toolbar" Also have noticed that my main desktop locks up a lot. Do you think AVG could be the problem ? I run an old Dell pro260 with XP pro ?
     
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    As a first guess, AVG could be the problem, especially if the lockup happened right after an update. One thing you can do for diagnosis is hit "CTRL-ALT- DELETE" which will bring up the Windows task manager and see what is running in the CPU usage column. To make that work, light the TM off and minimize BEFORE the lockup so all you need to do is maximize it to try catching it in the act.

    Dunno how to get rid of the toolbar, I've never allowed it to load. Conagher will have that scoop, maybe others as well.
     
  16. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    Thanks Ghrit. I have done the above, but have had no luck. I took out the avg toolbar, only to find it right back again after re-igniting my system. I also think avg is now the problem rather then the cure. Once again my old grandpa is always right when he told me over and over again " if it ain't broke, don't fix it " Avg for the last couple of years was great , at least until they fixed it. I may take the whole system out and replace it . What would you suggest I go to. ? I am also a very careful clicker. Lets be honest, I'm older then dirt anyway !
     
  17. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    I learn by experimenting, that's how careful clicking came about. Not by any means a guru with 'puters, nor overly expert in anything except screwing up and digging out. (Plenty practice at that.) I'd follow Conagher's experience, he's the go to guy on 'puters.

    All that said, experience taught me to avoid Norton. Norman is OK but takes forever, tho' unobtrusive. Avira takes forever, but even less obtrusive. Spyware Search and Destroy is pretty good, but can get in the way at times when you add software or do updates; it wants reassurance that you mean to add things. Malware Bytes is quick and effective, but like all the others won't necessarily detect everything. Spyware Terminator seems to work, it's found a couple things for me.
     
  18. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    Thanks Ghrit. I too avoid Norton, as I have been there and done that already. I would need to replace my Avg anti virus system. For real trouble I already use a paid version of spybot as my hunter - killer, and it seems to work well. My wifes computer is loaded with F-Secure, which is also a space hog, but keeps the problems really down to a bare min. I will be haveing my puter guru over for turkey day as he is a confirmed batchlor and knows nothing besides puters. 1 or 2 dinners a year, and free computer help. How can you go wrong with that ? Again, Thanks Nadja
     
  19. Conagher

    Conagher Dark Custom Rider Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Just remove AVG from your system and then reboot it. Then go to http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/ and download the version for your computer. As long as you have a valid OS installed, it will install in a few minutes and then update. You can have it run a scan of your system right after it updates as well.

    It is free from Microsoft and it has "real-time" spyware/malware protection and it is a great anti-virus application too.
     
  20. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    Thank-you for that info. I am not a puter person by any means, and would have never thought of that. But will put it to the test immed. and see what happens. Nadja
     
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