Backup iron sights or no?

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Lancer, Mar 6, 2018.


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  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

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  2. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Just rememberd, Nikon has another line up of comercial optics, NIKOR, and these are often supplied to companies like Leupold, Redfield, Baush and Laumb, Burris, and Pentax for their product line! Sort of the Japanese version of Zeiss, they supply much of the optics world with the glass and prisms, mainly to cut costs of manufacturing, especially for optics used mostly by civilians! Some manufactures do grind their own, but most get it from one of these two!
     
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  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    What's that for end your sportin there YardDart? Curious, been looking for something like that! Does it use keymod, or M-Lok or old school Rail?
     
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  4. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Sorry, copied the pic off the link to show how they looked. Not my install :(
     
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  5. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Awe, shucks! Lol
     
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  6. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    On my FireArms with Optics, If Possible I dual Mount with Irons, if NOT, I keep The Irons for that weapon, in storage, already Sighted In, and ready to drop on the Rails, if the Optics go south... Still have the Original Irons that came with the AR10... that I did the original Sight In @ 200 Yds... Then when the Optics Arrived, I pulled the Irons, off the Rails, and stored them away, as A BackUp Sight SetUp... Likely they will never get used, but they are there, Ready to go, if needed... I also keep a dozen extra Battery Sets for the fancy Burris Eliminator III Optic mounted on that Weapon... and for the Red Dots & Reflex Sights on the two Ruger 45/22s... One of them has an aditional Green Laser colocated with the Red Dot...
     
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  7. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    A rifle needs an adjustable iron sight...a telescopic sight or laser sight is a useful augmentation. If the augmentation fails; without an iron battle sight, the rifle just becomes a spray and pray stick...
     
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  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Mini Angular Flip-up Front & Rear Sight - Black
    This BUS set works great. Heavy duty T6 aluminum construction, nice soft ping when it sets, easy to flip down, low profile. Best I have ever used, and I have some expensive ones from military use. Best of all, the price is $22.99 :cool:
     
  9. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    OK - I'll follow the recommendations for irons. My gut says to in any case. Any weapon may possibly be called into "service" so build it as such.
    But now to stir up some more hate & discontent: I was laying it out with the gas block protected under the forward guards and use a clamp-on short rail for the front, since I have those bits on hand (or maybe just purchase a new clamp-on front). As far away from the rear as practical for a longer radius. A buddy of mine, rather rabid about such things - he's the sort that does 3-gun with night vision and suppressor, insists the front should go on the rail of the free float. I think that leave too much room for a wack to the guard to break the zero.
    Thoughts?
     
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  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Thanks for that Link Brokor. It was just what I was looking for. And a recommendation too.
     
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  11. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    If he wins regularly and his rifle is set up that way, pay attention. Otherwise I agree with your thinking
     
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  12. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Does your set up have a Rail section up front all ready or does your handguard have a full length rail section? Or is it smooth on top? Mounting your front sight shouldn't be that big of a deal as long as it mounts secure to the handguard! Just make sure it' a good solid mount and you should be good!
     
  13. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    He's optics only - highly custom stuff just for comp.. But he wins or places a lot..
     
  14. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    Both guards I have on hand, are square railed. One's 7" so "could" accept a standard A2 front w gas block, the other is 12", and is the one I'm considering using. It would cover a low profile GB, and I could put one of my Troy fronts on it. I'm really uncomfortable with that length of a lever between the barrel and the sight though: especially if prone. I'm thinking of grabbing one of these: (below), and using the longer guards. But more $$...
    https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...-15-fixed-clamp-on-front-sight-prod85934.aspx
     
  15. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    As long as the hand guard/free float is strong, I wouldn't worry about it. My latest has a full length rail section from barrel nut to end of for end, it's plenty strong enough, especially as the rail provides a "Bridge" of sorts between the ends!
    Unless your set up is ultra light or has flex in it, I would say your fine!
     
  16. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    I'll post a pic when done - lower's out getting powder coated right now... It's a "custom truck part" around here...
     
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  17. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Check out ALG for uber strong rails and rock solid mounting system that are also reasonably priced:
    I'm particularly fond of the EMR V2: Ergonomic Modular Rail (EMR) V2 M-LOK



    Also for those wanting Troy sights I've found ecopusa.com to have the best prices.
     
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  18. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    Definitely have iron sights! Always have a plan B.
     
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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Don't rely on something portable that can't survive being dropped.
     
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  20. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Looks like a Diamondhead freefloat hand guard. Some of them have that swept back front end and triangular shape. Maybe has a cap on the front, because you don't want that to be so solid and heavy unless it's a bench gun.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2018
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