Seems I heard a little about these on here . I looked at there site and was wondering what ya'll thought of these . I looked at the BF-F8HP,,,or the UV-82HP . For a starter to ease into the Ham radio world . Are these actually the types were the license is required for use ? What kind of range could you expect on these ? I did see a youtube video that said it would not be useful in the 8 watt range without a high gain antenna , and otherwise would just make for an expensive hand warmer . I'd like to have a handheld radio to start with , and possibly move up to mobile or base station . Back in my truckin' days , I had a Cobra CB , can't remember which model , had a guy tweak it up some , and one night , on a clear night , sitting on top of a hill , I was able to talk to a guy probably 60-70 miles away , as the crow flies . He was running a base station,, not sure if that helped him receive my transmission from that distance or not . Thanks for what ever you could offer . Keep it simple , I'm a low tech guy .