Beghazi, IRS and tracking the AP phones.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by stg58, May 14, 2013.


  1. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    I tuned into the Whitehouse briefing today and the group who usually scrambles to suck up anything the chosen ones utter are PO'd. Mainly about the AP phone tracking. Tax records on conservative groups they could likely care less about but the combination of 3 scandals at one time has the media sharks circling.
    And every audit will be blamed on Obama:)

    If this drags on it will stall his agenda as even the Dems are distancing themselves from Barry:)

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    The IRS came after Billy Graham, too, his son charged Tuesday in a letter to President Barack Obama.
    Franklin Graham, the president of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and the family’s international humanitarian organization Samaritan’s Purse, said that the IRS notified the organizations in September that it was conducting a “review” of their activities for tax year 2010.






    With the IRS admitting it gave extra scrutiny to conservative political organizations, Graham says he now believes that the review was part of an Obama administration effort of “targeting and attempting to intimidate us.”
     
  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I understand a Fourth scandal is about to hit the current administration soon.Talk about a Shit storm...
     
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  3. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    :) :) :)
     
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Couldn't happen to a nice bunch of folks.......
     
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  5. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Ohh, what kind of scandal?
     
  6. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    The town is turning on President Obama – and this is very bad news for this White House.
    Republicans have waited five years for the moment to put the screws to Obama – and they have one-third of all congressional committees on the case now. Establishment Democrats, never big fans of this president to begin with, are starting to speak out. And reporters are tripping over themselves to condemn lies, bullying and shadiness in the Obama administration.

    Behind the Curtain: D.C. turns on Obama - POLITICO.com
     
  7. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Oh don't worry, we'll have another bomb/shooting event here soon enough to draw the sheeples' eyes and ears away.

    Unless of course, zero has pissed off the MSM enough that they don't forgive him for stabbing them in the back.

    In that case he'll declare martial law somewhere or find that there is a chem weapon attack in syria, NK puts nuke missles on pad aimed at SK/Japan/Oz. Whatever, it'll have to be big.

    I'm getting the popcorn ready.

    Then again, maybe i'm just jaded and cynical
     
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  8. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    did you know that our Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is actually calling private companies that she regulates and asking them to donate money to help implement ObamaCare.and directly asked that they contribute to non-profits that are working to enroll uninsured Americans and increase awareness of the law.
     
  9. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    [pop]
     
  10. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja Jedi Bipolar WINNING M.L.F.

    Sucks but I agree.
    :(
     
  11. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    You know you are a slime ball when Charlie Rangel calls you out....:)


    Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that he believes President Barack Obama owes the American public explanations for both the seizure of Associated Press phone records by the Department of Justice and the IRS targeting of conservative groups.
    I don’t think anyone truly believes that the president has given us a sufficient answer for America, much less the press,” Rangel said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I think this is just the beginning and the whole idea of comparing this with Nixon, I really think is just, it doesn’t make much sense. But the president has to come forward and share why he did not alert the press they were going to do this. He has to tell the Americans, including me: What was this national security question? You just can’t raise the flag and expect to salute it every time without any reason and the same thing applies to the IRS.”
     
  12. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    Of course the Graham family will be getting audited. Billy called out the administration right after Benghazi and basically called them liars.
     
  13. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    I want to know what you all expect and want as an end result of these scandals. Really, I have been debating what would be the best outcome. Would an impeachment of Obama be the best cause then we would have a President Biden. Shoot that is scary just to type it. Is Joe stable enough to run the country? Three years of Biden commander in chief. I do think Holder should go bye-bye, plus Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice. They can throw Janet Napolitano out also cause I just think that is one creepy dude.

    So we know that are liars. We know we have scoundrels leading the country but are the people really going to call for the Chosen ones resignation? By Obama saying he learned of the IRS scandal on Friday, he has created an escape from accountability. He can always say he was kept in the dark by __________ and that person will end up being fired or resign.
     
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  14. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    He/they will shuck, jive, lie, blame fill in the blanks____________________ then resume their agenda after the dust settles.

    The best at this point is for a temporary side tracking of their desire to destroy all that made the country great.
     
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  15. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja Jedi Bipolar WINNING M.L.F.

     
  16. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    There isn't enough in the current crop of scandals to bring down Obama, or any of the major players in his cabinet. A few small fry will be thrown onto the sacrificial alter, but that is about it. I'm afraid that we have four more years of the same ole stuff ahead of us.

    Then, we get the opportunity to vote for whatever idiot is trotted out to us as an alternative to the continuation of the current administration. I'm not much into conspiracy theories, but I have to admit that there doesn't seem to be much of an opposing team. It does seem more like a rehearsed wrestling match, than a serious competition.

    At the local level, maybe we can still have some impact. At the national level, it becomes more depressing every year. Still, if you don't at least try, then you don't really have the right to complain about the outcome, IMO.
     
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  17. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    It's all for show, ladies and gentlemen.
    The fall-guy Commissioner, Steven Miller, who was already slated to leave in June, as interim Commissioner was fired by Obama today.
    But there is one big problem.
    130425_steven_miller_irs_js_605.
    Obama fall-guy Commissioner Steven Miller was not even in place until November of 2012.
    Yes indeed, hired on Nov. 10, 2012 is the actual date.
    The IRS targeting took place all the way back into, at least, 2011 and probably before that, as many of those who dissent and got punished can factually attest.
    220px-Douglas_Shulman.
    No, it would seem that we need to investigate the former commissioner, Douglas Schulman, who was hired in 2008 and left in 2012, when this story truly began percolating out into political circles and the media.
    Indeed, he was the bureaucrat in charge of an agency which tried to make anyone who disagreed, or held a different belief or even faith, miserable for not bowing to the President's urgent need to transform America by any and all means available.
    Obama apparently thinks the American people are well beyond stupid, and he might be about half correct, at this point. But anyone who thinks this solves the entire problem and absolves the president has drank far too much Kool-aid.
     
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  18. bfayer

    bfayer Keeper Of The Faith

    How soon before we find a body in a park with a suicide note claiming full responsibility for every one of these inconvenient news stories?

    It will probably be a one armed man.
     
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  19. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    The bad news just keeps rolling out. Wow!!!! Did they really tap the congressional cloakroom?

    (UPDATED) ‘Stunner’: Congressman Claims AP Phone Scandal Involved House of Reps. ‘Cloakroom’ | TheBlaze.com
     
  20. DKR

    DKR Interesting ideas, interesting stories

    Let's not forget
    EPA email 'scandal'
    Pigford 'scandal'
    Failed (multiple) green business 'scandal;'

    The list goes on and on. The current kerfuffle over the IRS/phone tapping/bugs/Benghazi are just others in a long string of 'scandal' that seemed to have passed this bunch by.

    Just for the record... it may just sound familiar-

    Article 2

    Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies.
    This conduct has included one or more of the following:
    1. He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposed not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.
    2. He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secret Service, and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; he did direct, authorize, or permit the use of information obtained thereby for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; and he did direct the concealment of certain records made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of electronic surveillance.
    3. He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, authorized and permitted to be maintained a secret investigative unit within the office of the President, financed in part with money derived from campaign contributions, which unlawfully utilized the resources of the Central Intelligence Agency, engaged in covert and unlawful activities, and attempted to prejudice the constitutional right of an accused to a fair trial.
    4. He has failed to take care that the laws were faithfully executed by failing to act when he knew or had reason to know that his close subordinates endeavoured to impede and frustrate lawful inquiries by duly constituted executive, judicial and legislative entities concerning the unlawful entry into the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, and the cover-up thereof, and concerning other unlawful activities including those relating to the confirmation of Richard Kleindienst as Attorney General of the United States, the electronic surveillance of private citizens, the break-in into the offices of Dr. Lewis Fielding, and the campaign financing practices of the Committee to Re-elect the President.
    5. In disregard of the rule of law, he knowingly misused the executive power by interfering with agencies of the executive branch, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Criminal Division, and the Office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, of the Department of Justice, and the Central Intelligence Agency, in violation of his duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.
    In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
     
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