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Black Pipe Shotgun - Noisy Cricket

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Quigley_Sharps, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Guess it would work in a pinch.
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  2. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Cool idea! Not so sure how comfortable I would be using JB Weld though. It would be interesting to know how long Sch. 40 could withstand the pressures of a shotgun load. Wondering if Sch. 80 be a better option to use for longevity or if it would hold up over the long haul.
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member


    Sched 40 steel pipe is good for a working pressure of 2000 psi, rated burst at 12900 in 3/4 inch that would be needed for a standard 12 hull. That would be shaky with 12 ga loads that normally run to 12000 on the very high end, even with the sloppy fit between the "barrel" and "receiver". With the double sleeve arrangement shown, there should be no problem for the operator. Note that the JB weld is not in a critical area, and is (or can be) backed up with a plug in the "shoulder" stock arrangement.

    I'd be inclined to thread the plug for the firing pin and use a bolt rather than a screw instead of JB-ing it. That way you could form a nicely rounded striker, and reform it if needed.

    No way we can advocate this as a primary shottie, it's just a bit too far out there until something really goes out of round. Strictly an informative thread.
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  4. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    yet another buetiful piece of work thanks keepem' coming
  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Longevity is not really an issue.
    It's design is to get you to a better gun. ;)
  6. Gunny Highway

    Gunny Highway Hard Work and Sacrifice blessed by God's Grace Site Supporter

    Gotta love American Ingenuity - that being said I do agree with Visutrac, it's sole to get you to another gun ( after having been disarmed by The State ) but having it cached somewhere away from your other preps and then retrieving it. It would enable you to be armed while you are getting to those more long term preps. Getting surprised armed only with a blade while digging up your big preps would be to say the least - sub optimal. I like the idea of burying two so you and your lookout are both armed.

    Ghrit's idea is better as I wouldn't want to trust my life to JB Weld ( despite its having saved me in the desert and driving home from camping in the mountains - car applications ). I just don't trust it to those type of explosive forces. The flash/back blast can't be much more than firing my muzzleloader.

    " Disclaimer : attention - this is a foolish and insipid notion and anyone even attempting it would be a complete and utter fool. I'm sure the man in this video is working out of somewhere in Eastern Europe and not anywhere within the auspices of such a fine and reputable statutory organization as any of our fine law enforcement organizations here in the US. What a great American accent he has perfected ! It must have taken some to time to master it at the level with which he speaks. No doubt he is a paragon of acting and elocution. "
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  7. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    I never worried about that we are not in the market to sell em just long to git a better one. 101 look out your window.....
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  8. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    but here i thought everyone knew how to weld with oxy or could make there own arc welder ..??
    that be my next thread....for those who might enjoy a bit more of my useless info.
  9. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    You can never have too many tools, unless you are moving.....;)
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  10. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    I gained some of my best tools on the move and can readily identify and use any ....and can make alot by cast, forge, and machine .
  11. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I realize that but am of the mindset that if I am going to build something, I might as well build it to last. ;)
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  12. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    the easiest one is totally mobile it uses thing you "should" have in your vehicle... 1) battery 12volt 2)jumper cables 3) wire coat hangers. got more if yall want but would have to email them to ya
  13. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Got that thread going yet... ;)
    No such thing as too many tools even if moving, I'd leave something else behind first.
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  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    My point was that is when they are the heaviest.
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  15. Zombie Hunter

    Zombie Hunter Monkey

    Very nice simple design. I'm not sure about their legality though. I remember reading an article about a mentally ill homeless veteran who made something similar for self defense and when he called a veteran suicide prevention hotline for help he was arrested for illegal possession of a destructive device instead. Not sure if that was the exact legal term for what he was charged with. Sad story though.

    I really like the design its a great last ditch survival/self defense weapon if you have nothing else but have the materials to make it.
  16. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Yep, Can't call it a "Shotgun" unless it is 10 Gauge, or bigger... otherwise it is a "Destructive Device" and those are NFA Weapons, and Require a $200US Tax Stamp.
    Rifles and Muskets must be 50 Caliber, or less, or they fall under the NFA Rules as well....

    This all assumes, that the weapon is using Smokeless Powder. Muzzleloaders do NOT fall under these same NFA Rules, if they are using Real or Fake Black Powder, as a propellant.
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