I just got done loading a box of 38 Special 158gr Lead RN propelled by .7cc of 3F black powder. I've never tried this particular combination before, but thought it would be fun and educational to try. I researched black powder metallic cartridge reloading and found a wealth of information from the cowboy action shooting community. I'm going to try 30-30 next. I'd chrony the results, but unfortunetly I shot my chrony's sky screen and have to get some replacement parts. Note to self: don't move your shooting position in the middle of a string of shots!