blackpowder cannon

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by spero, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. spero

    spero Monkey+

    anyone know the legality of these in ohio
    i have did a lot of research and from what i can tell as long as they are modeled after the old pre-1800 versions and are muzzle loaders they do not qualify as handguns and their is no law against making them. at least not federally. i was just wondering if anyone new about ohio laws. i can not find them in the law
  2. Jack Cracker

    Jack Cracker Monkey+

    not sure. We used to use them for reenactment and they were generally exempt
  3. Bear4570

    Bear4570 Monkey+++

    According to this one would think so...Here is the ordiance # to look up for further reading.

    Lawriter - ORC - 2923.11 Weapons control definitions.

    Section 2923.11 Ohio Weapons control definitions

    (L) “Dangerous ordnance” does not include any of the following:
    (1) Any firearm, including a military weapon and the ammunition for that weapon, and regardless of its actual age, that employs a percussion cap or other obsolete ignition system, or that is designed and safe for use only with black powder;
    (2) Any pistol, rifle, or shotgun, designed or suitable for sporting purposes, including a military weapon as issued or as modified, and the ammunition for that weapon, unless the firearm is an automatic or sawed-off firearm;
    (3) Any cannon or other artillery piece that, regardless of its actual age, is of a type in accepted use prior to 1887, has no mechanical, hydraulic, pneumatic, or other system for absorbing recoil and returning the tube into battery without displacing the carriage, and is designed and safe for use only with black powder;
    (4) Black powder, priming quills, and percussion caps possessed and lawfully used to fire a cannon of a type defined in division (L)(3) of this section during displays, celebrations, organized matches or shoots, and target practice, and smokeless and black powder, primers, and percussion caps possessed and lawfully used as a propellant or ignition device in small-arms or small-arms ammunition;
  4. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Still a viable weapon. What do they yell when they fire it?
  5. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    don't see anything like that being practical for anything short of a sieging militia group >>>

    but a cannon barrel type IED set-up >>> most certainly
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  6. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    I'm a Confederate Civil War re-enactor, and in the Infantry! Artillery and calvary are nice to have around during a battle, but they are both best left to those that know what they are doing, and/or have a death-wish!
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  7. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    You mean a "claymore"?
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Think of the fall of phnom penh. A few thousand commie foot soldiers wouldn't have walked in there and marched people out of the city and into the fields for the khmer rouge if the city of a few million had say 100,000 mausers, engfields, stens, PPSh, break top revolvers, ect, generally obsolete small arms and say a thousand very obsolete "pirate" cannons and pickup truck mounted Lewis, maxim, sho machine guns.
    They would have thought twice about that shit.
    Communism seems to only be successful when the population is just about today disarmed.
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  9. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    totally different construction
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  10. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Doesn't matter much if you're on the receiving end of things! I studied a claymore mine while I was taking ROTC in college, I still have the drawings and notes somewhere, easy to DIY and employ...lots easier than a cannon.
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  11. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Yeah, but then Phnom Penh was under siege and dependent upon armed convoys coming up the Mekong River from Vietnam for ALL of their food, fuel, etc....the end result would have been the same!
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  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Biden: you can't buy a cannon.

    Pretty sad you can usually get better legal advice off the Internet than from the POTUS.
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  13. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    MC0626 Civil War Field Cannon Barrel - full scale

    Full scale...and it's in stock Joe!

    The buyer has to fill out a "cannon form" that basically says they won't do anything stupid that endangers themselves, their crew or anybody down range.

    The only additional thing that Dad found helpful before firing cannons was a call to the gas company, since they always got calls about an explosion. This kept us on their good side. We do the same kind of courtesy call when firing machine guns to save the Sheriff a trip out to the range. They get the calls from worried old ladies and can simply tell them "Yes, Ma'am, we know all about it. Nothing to worry about."
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2022
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  14. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I would think a backyard cannon for the 4th of july should be easy enough to fabricate.
    I've seen 1 or 2 already, Mostly noise makers.
  15. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    They make a little noise punching 2" lead balls through cars. ;)

  16. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Hmm been to 1 or 2 in the past, See that old bastard in the beginning on the right? I think I know him?
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