This is dated material but I just had the time to download these pics and put this post together. There was a recent discussion here about forced relocation. I'm not dredging up an old argument here. Forget the what would or could precipitate it argument. The logistical possibility has been proven. I was leaving South Texas several weeks ago, a couple of days before hurricane Dean IIRC, was due to hit. The forecasts kept moving it farther and farther south. It eventually made landfall in central Mexico. But at one time they thought it might come directly at Brownsville, Texas. The Texas Governer had issued a voluntary evacuation order and President Bush had made a "pre-emptive" disaster declaration. When I left, the FEMA presence was well established and the radio was reporting that if it looked like the hurricane was going to hit Texas that the evacuation order would be made mandatory. From Zapata to Brownsville, the news stated that there were an estimated 1.5 million people that would be forced to leave. I wondered how they could evacuate so many people. I soon learned the answer. As I started heading North I saw in the South bound lanes convoy after convoy of busses. Each convoy contained between 20 to 100 buses each. Mostly school buses but quite a few tour buses also. Each convoy was followed by a convoy of National Guard troops. With 20-30 vehicles. Mostly duece and a half trucks. Every other one was empty, I assumed to haul luggage, and every other one was full of troops. I watched line after line of these convoys pass by for over a hundred miles. All the way to San Antonio. The San Antonio news station had a story about 3000 buses being stationed there awaiting orders to move south. The report stated that any voluntary evacuees should go to a "closed" military base on the outskirts that would be utilized to house evacuees. I heard similar reports when I went through Austin later that day.I stopped just outside of San Antonio to have lunch. I purposely selected a place where I could watch the interstate. I got a hamburger and parked in the parking lot where I could watch the traffic going South. In 15 minutes I counted over 300 buses that came by. I gave up counting. At my best guess I estimated that I personaly saw, in just a few hours of one morning, two days before the storm, at least 5000 - 7000 busses pass me by. When I returned to the valley I was told that every school, convention center, and fair ground parking lots were full of buses. A little calculation and to my best estimate. With what I saw and what the news was reporting, the government had in place the resources to evacuate at least 3/4 of a million people. And that is a conservative estimate I'm sure. But considering that a large number would have left before the order went mandatory then that number would have probably been sufficient. And they were reporting that if the order went mandatory that they would be stopping all civilian traffic to prevent gridlock. So the idea that a population could not be forcibly relocated on orders (for whatever reason) from the government is not viable. It is entirely possible. If they could, in just a few days, mobilize the resources to evacuate 1.5 million people then they could certainly evacuate nearly any city in the country if given enough time to mobilize. Now I am not saying that there was anything sinister going on. With the aftermath of Katrina still fresh in memory, I am sure that they were ready to err on the side of caution. But it still gave me an eerie feeling watching all the resources mobilize and the news stating that the order could be made mandatory, and NG troops being deployed to enforce it. What if there were folks who didn't want to go? Would they have been manhandled into the busses? Would they have been tasered into submission? Scary stuff folks.