Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Legion489, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned


    Part I:
    A. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
    B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
    C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.

    In three generations, there will be no more Democrats.

    Part II:
    10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
    City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

    1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
    2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
    3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
    4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
    5. Miami, FL 26.9%
    5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
    7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
    8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
    9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
    10. Newark, NJ 24.2%

    What do these top ten cities (over 250,000 pop.) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

    Detroit, MI - (1st on poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961
    Buffalo, NY - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
    Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984
    Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989
    Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
    St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949
    El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
    Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908
    Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952
    Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907

    Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and
    expecting different results.'It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats... yet they are still POOR.

    Part III:

    "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative
    and independence.
    You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and
    should do for themselves."
    ~ Abraham Lincoln

    "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the
    government take care of him had better take a much closer look at the
    American Indian."
    ~Henry Ford
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  2. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Saw the Lincoln quote before... claim was that was his response after reading Karl Marx...
  3. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    I think that there is some confusion amongst most people as to what a conservative is and what a liberal is .
    I've met folk that live differently than they propose them self to be .Both ways.
    It seems as though some are brought up with in a certain party line, and take no real thought as to where that line really stands , either way.
    Like women the would vote for a woman simply because its a woman, and not where she actually stands.

    On a different note,
    Our well meaning conservative parents of the past, unknowingly made liberals out of their families by trying to make a better life for them, than they had growing up (early 1900s).
    Their adult kids didn't earn stuff in the length of time it took parents to accumulate, they went into debt trying to have all the stuff their parent did and more. "Like having things handed to them", like some parents did "for their kids" .
    A lot of these people never learned to accept responsibility and became the entitlement generation . their studies include taking advantage of all the government programs they could, to life off the rest of the working world. I know these people. they live with what ever they can get away with,, with the philosophy that, it is easier to get forgiveness than permission.= liberal. = criminal
    Ever bending laws to fit their agendas .and they know how to abuse a law to work it their own way. frivolous lawsuits are proof of that .
    Point I was trying to make is that until parenting becomes a more serious responsibility, nothing is going to change.
    And though a parent may later become conservative, recognizing it's values , the generosity expected due to society makes it hard to be tough on kids, for their own good, so the liberal mentality continues amongst the young .
    Due to the rebellious, selfish, immoral, nature of the young, one generation to the next, democrats won't die out, and there will will continue to be the endless chain of debased human kind .
  4. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus


    Karl Marx did write, and send a letter to Abraham Lincoln on behalf of the The International Working Men's Association's Central Committee, the draft of which can be found at Marx's letter to Abraham Lincoln . Karl Marx apparently received a response from the head of the American Legation, Charles Francis Adams, on behalf of President Abraham Lincoln, as follows...

    Although Marx and Engels published "The Communist Manifesto", in 1848; did Abraham Lincoln actually read it? Likewise, the first volume of Das Kapital was not published until 1867, after Lincoln's death.

    It would seem that the quote in the OP attributed to Lincoln, was actually authored by The Rev. William John Henry Boetcker Non-Lincoln "You Cannot" Quotation William J. H. Boetcker - Wikipedia

    It looks like the OP, has followed Ronny Raygun's putting of The Rev, William John Henry Boetcker's words into Lincoln's long dead mouth.

    Brilliance Part 3 actually consists of the aphorisms of a largely now obscure cleric published in 1916.

    You'll note that the Rev Boetcker does not resemble Abe at all. The OP @Legion489 is encouraged to correct the misattribution to Lincoln, and give credit where credit is due, to The Reverend Boetcker....intellectual honesty would demand no less. ;)

    Let Abraham Lincoln have the last say with regard to the quote attributed to him in the OP.

    Last edited: Sep 12, 2017
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Unfortunately Republicans are just the other side of the same old tired worn coin that get tossed to determine the fate of those of us that are the actual engine and transmission that moves this dung heap. Republicans give us credit to indenture us with payments that even though it gives us nice stuff, it keeps us in line, humble little slaves to the system but the profits still go to the same damned pockets. Democrats want to tax us to death and give us all this free stuff to keep us in line but the profits still go to the same damned pockets. I have to piss in a jar because insurance company's actuarial tables said it would be profitable to give millions of dollars to politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, to pass laws thats says a french-fry server at McDonalds has to show evidence of a lower THC level than a FBI Agent does. There is one problem with this Country and everybody ignores the elephant standing in the room because we owe our borrowed stuff to it. Establish term limits for politicians, take back the bread and circuses they have voted themselves, and this beautiful Republic would weed out the problems on our own, just like we pull the weeds from our vegetable garden. We would do it with a hoe, sharpened by hand and wear the blisters on our palms with pride, rather than borrowing money from Monsanto to kill our weeds and genetically modify our crops to kill as many as they feed. Yes, the weaker would perish unless they are protected and cared for by their families. Yes, many of our elderly would die rather than being stuffed into a rented "Care" facility because we have gotten too unfeeling to care for them ourselves so we can pay the note on that new plasma TV. If we want the easy life that we borrowed into after the great war to continue, then we will have to put up with the social crap that is nothing but smoke and mirrors placed by the politicians that want to keep us indentured. Think about being at sea in a life-boat. If there is one that refuses to row, he doesn't get his sip of the water collected by a solar still and when he dies, cut him into bait to feed the rest.
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2017
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  6. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I got to agree with @Seacowboys on this...Democrats or Republicans are the same self-serving animals and if you don't believe that then look what is happening now or, maybe better said, look what isn't happening now. We have a Republican Senate and House and President but what is getting done - not a hell'va lot - like nothing. Since my return and joining this forum 2.5 years ago I have changed greatly after seeing first hand what has become of this country. The citizens of this nation are getting the royal screwing and they are pacified with promises, bread and circuses and good old fashion flag waving, drum beating patriotic propaganda. So, the sad fact is nothing is going to change - nothing - until the people of this country stop begging, stop asking and start demanding and sadly this is going to take blood, lots of it. I've finally come to accept this. I would hope this would happen in my lifetime but I sincerely doubt it because things will have to get worse before they get better and those Democrats and Republicans and those that pull their strings ensure to let enough crumbs fall off the table to pacify the masses because they know what will happen if they don't. But, the House of Cards cannot stand forever because it is built nothing but lies, air and false hope.
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  7. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Both repuclicans and democrats do not practice good financial policy. Both groups have the country headed for a financial cliff. However the democrats are headed there at 80mph and the republicans at 45 mph.

    The main this i dislike about democrats is their social justice neo marxist bull crap!
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  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    @chelloveck Don't forget Chelly, it was Lincoln's Vice President, Andy Johnson who invented the Internet, not Al Gore. Johnson was always dicking around with something.
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  9. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    As Vice Presidents tend to do....Betsy DeVos has her Education portfolio to thank for a little VP dicking around. :p

  10. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    In three generations....there'd be a fair swag of Republicans gone too.... ;)

    19 Republican Politicians Brought Down By Big Gay Sex Scandals

    16 Anti-Gay Activists Who Were Caught Being Gay

    A Brief History Of Antigay Politicians Caught Doing Very Gay Things In Public Restrooms

    A List Of Republicans That Got Caught In GAY Scandals

    Then there is the special kind of GOP stupid....Tom Courser, GOP State Rep Michigan
    ....pretending to solicit gay cover up straight infidelity Recordings: State rep asked aide to hide relationship

    Nothing wrong with Republicans being gay....nothing wrong with that at all....the hypocrisy is a lot harder to swallow though.

    More Brilliance....

    Then you wouldn't be in favour of de-funding Planned Parenthood then.....after all....Christian Evangelicals, (and members of other Christian denominations) are significant users of Planned Parenthood contraceptive and pregnancy termination services.

    Meet the Evangelicals Who Secretly Use Planned Parenthood

    The Unbelievable Hypocrisy of Evangelical Women Who Use Planned Parenthood

    When Good Christian Girls Need Planned Parenthood

    I'd be surprised that pregnancy termination service providers ask for their clients' their political affiliation when clients are seeking termination services. However, both Republicans and Democrats make use of pregnancy termination services. It doesn't follow that Democrats are the only ones aborting pregnancies. Think of all the unborn Republicans who's conception was prevented by the availability of effective contraception...same applies to Democrats.....but there's no sign of Republicans or Democrats ever becoming extinct.

    Perhaps the OP is not so brilliant....:rolleyes:
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