Bucks Taking A Break

Discussion in 'Turf and Surf Hunting and Fishing' started by Mountainman, Jun 15, 2014.


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  1. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    A group of 11 bucks this afternoon taking a break in our meadow. There are even more bucks then this hanging around. Unusual year since the normal is for around 5 to be staying here from now until the others migrate back down in the fall. Guess they are lucky I don't like the taste of venison and only shoot them with a camera. SHTF and it would be a different story.

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  2. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    Anytime you want to bag one or two, get them "packaged" up and I am sure we can work out a deal. We love venison here at this homestead :)
     
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Nice! They sure do like that field! Just keep the same thing going until you do need them for food, certainly makes for a great way to manage resources --meat on the hoof.
     
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  4. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    ....or. Put up tall fence posts now, and set aside and store enough chail link to wrap large sections of land in a hurry. Then on a trailer spool, drive around the property quietly and not spook them, follow along behind with zip ties, and you have a breeding population for SHTF. Some folks put up fence in sections with gaps. Then fence off the gaps.
     
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  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    HA! I wonder if most of us think the same way sometimes. I must have spent a few minutes pondering that very idea earlier.
     
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  6. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    I like your idea, except I need to get some does in there or I will have a San Fran thing going on [haay] and no fawns, LOL!

    Those deer have been around since November and are so used to us that you can ride an ATV or drive a vehicle within 50 yards of them and they don't care. They usually travel through the meadow the same way each day so building a fence on the two ends they don't use ahead of time and then shutting that off when they are inside could work. Damn Kell, now you have me thinking......material, water, food and Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife's response if done before SHTF. [patr]
     
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  7. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    They remain State Property, but when fenced the rules change. This is how most "HighFence" deer farms start. With a fence. It happens to be the best hunting weapon possible. It is just not my thing. Check with your DNR, and figure out the rules. It can be done legally now. And for every buck you see there, there will be dozens of does you don't see. Watch for evening or early morning grazing in the open spaces. (They do not eat grass, but clover and other things between the grass) .
    After the quick fence is up, it can be improved upon a section at a time as time and money allow. Deer can jump a 12' fence if he feels he must, or even dig under if it is loose, so a bottom tight wire or bottom bar is needed.
     
  8. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Don't think I would go for the fenced in deer. Would have better production and less licensing hassle if cattle went in instead.

    There are some does around but don't have much interest in hanging around with the guys because they are busy with fawns now.
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    The State should raise the age limit on fawns, that's just downright despicable. Dirty, dirty Bucks.
     
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  10. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Cattle cost money, deer don't. As long as the fenced are is large enough and has water, they should do pretty well on their own....will cattle?
    Free deer, have hunting seasons, fenced deer have different rules, because they are no longer part of the breeding herd, they are a thing apart. Still state property, but in private hands and used as if private, with larger limits, herd culling, and other options not open to other hunters. This is meat on the hoof, year round....legally. You only need to feed them when there is not enough locally for them to feed themselves. Many things they like, you will too. Acorns can make flour, just about any kind of fruit, they like. Oranges are a favorite. Grapes, honeysuckle, clover, oaks will grow wild, and apples of course. Beets go well for fall and winter wheat as well as corn, and many other natural feeds. So much of what you grow for them, you can also grow for you.
    Hides, antlers, heads(mounts) and other part can be sold legally (follow your local game laws) as a byproduct not a business. Some local quality farm and fleets pay a few dollars each for raw hides. Even squirrel tails can make you a return. MEPPS (the fishing lure company) uses squirrel tail to make lures. Go to their web site for details if you are interested in cash or payment in lures (better bargain) . and don't forget that deer hides can be tanned and used or sold.
    Now steak is great, but what do you lose if it dies? Money wise? You will butchure it of course, but you would do the same with a deer. (And your initial cost is? Zero. State property) .
    EDIT: you would need a better fence Wirth deer, but good fences make good neighbors, and you would likely have electrified, razor wire anyways, just for the neighbors.....
     
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  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Looks like I did not word that quite right [whipem]
     
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  12. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    :lol:Lol
     
  13. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    I am not a rancher, but think that pound for pound I would end up feeding both the same amount of food once the natural source is gone. Water is not a problem here although the natural food supply gets pretty slim by the end of June.

    I have tried growing food for the animals in the meadows and have not had any lucky because of our crap clay soil and all the plants get eaten down before they really get going. I know there are steps that could be taken to get plots in, but don't want to put in the time and money since the deer hang around here anyway.

    Yes, loosing one beef would equal a lot of venison and that's the chance you take. I hope your talking about butchering a fresh kill from an accident and not just one you found dead that was not rancid yet?
     
  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Lol, no, I ment accident or attacked. Wolves, bears, coyotes and cats are still a possibility, and bucks will kill each other sometimes. If you can't know it is fresh and clean, it's dog food, or fertilizer.
     
  15. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja Jedi Bipolar WINNING M.L.F.

    Accidents what?
    That buck was coming right for us!
    Self-defense, sir....
    Tasty...tasty venison sausage self defense.

     
  16. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I wouldn't try that excuse on an Alaskan Fish & Wildlife Trooper, you would find yourself in the Callaboose for a extended stay, with Big Bubba as a roommate.....
     
  17. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Was hoping that was what you meant and not loosing it, or your days would be numbered eating meat like that.
     
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  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I can see you don't have a coona$$ within a 100 miles of you.
     
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  19. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Your right, just my fellow redneck neighbors in this neck of the woods.
     
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