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Bugout or Bugin?

Discussion in 'Back to Basics' started by VisuTrac, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. Bugging In

    101 vote(s)
  2. Bugging Out

    13 vote(s)
  3. Not sure

    12 vote(s)
  4. I'm not telling you.

    22 vote(s)
  1. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Thought i'd post a poll.

    Am i the only one that is planning on bugging in?
  2. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Nope...Me too
  3. DocLRRP

    DocLRRP Monkey+

    No, my wife and I are planning a 'Bug In ' scenario. Everything is packed, so if we do have the need to get out, we can be packed and on our way in under two hours. We have staged everything.

    We moved a few months ago to a small town of about 7K and it is loaded with hunters and farmers. My wife and I feel that there is a high chance of survival in a "Patriots" type occurance. Which, is almost a worst case type of scenario.

    It will be interstesting to see how things get organized in a SHTF world.
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Crrent plan is bug in, but there is a cache about 50 miles away. (Unfortunately, it's in the wrong direction.)
  5. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Wrong direction??? In the sky, or under the ground???... ;)
  6. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Bugging in.....in my "bug out" place.
    The problem is $....always was always will be.

    To "Bug-In" takes certain preparations and those can be costly...water, food, septic/sewage disposal, electric, heat, defenses.
    BUT, with that having been said....

    To "Bug-Out" takes even more money:
    1)LAND, 2)transportation, and the rest of the preparations as well.
    Plus, IF you choose to "Bug-Out", you'll have to have a shelter...
    Soft and temporary such as a tent, or a hardened and permanent structure.
    So, it's a double edged sword.
    Since I now live on the edge of a large city ( Phoenix), my idea is to get out now, before TSHTF, and move up to my land. Once I get Up there, do whatever it takes to secure the place.

    1) You'll have to find a place to go to...(Time and money spent searching and researching your choice of area/s....)
    2) You'll have to buy, lease, rent or co-share the land/property. ( additional costs and problems)
    3) You'll have to relocate and move all you have...or not! ( now you have incurred even more costs) ( not easily done IF you are employed!)
    4) Security...YOU can lose it all in one night or day, from locals or "unwelcome visitor's"...( you have to have some sort of permanent security you can rely on!) (Fencing, dogs, alarms, and an alert caretaker, is your best bet!)
    Just how I have come to see it, having bought land ( twice now) and still frustrated by the whole mess!
    3cyl likes this.
  7. azurevirus

    azurevirus Monkey++

    Bug in or out

    Bugging in for sure...I want to get it so I can load my truck with foodstuffs and a couple guns and a few hundred rounds of ammo ..clothes etc to go somewhere...most likely the woods as I know them pretty good and the fact I have no where else to go..Im guessing because if anyone is prepping locally they are keeping it quiet...cant find local fellow prepper for nothing..now if I was a dope dealer..be a diff story
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    East is wrong in this case. (Mis-stated the distance, too. Should have said 150 miles. Very foggy mind last night.)
  9. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    I say bug in...... until....... bugging in is no longer possible. Have a contingency plan.

    To plan 100% one way or the other is a fallacy. I'd say I am 80% sure I would bug in. 20% chance I would leave. % would change with time.
  10. ISplatU

    ISplatU Monkey+

    I have plans for both. It depends on how bad it gets.

    If It get bad then bug out.
  11. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    What he said...I have triple plans for in and out...
  12. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    Well...my home (83 acres on the river about 10 miles from a city of 30K unfortunately situated on a major Interstate) is the bug out destination for a decent group of family and close friends.

    But my son and I also have an 80 acre mining claim about 15 miles away (opposite direction from town) with caches of food and equipment and a great year round creek.

    I still answered "bug in" to the poll.
  13. dontno4sure

    dontno4sure Monkey+

    Bug In seams to be a better idea for me built a house 15 years ago with ICF 6 inch concrete walls and brick exterior and will be in the process before long of putting a steel roof on, the only thing I really need to do is secure doors and windows and should have a fairly secure fortress. I only began considering what can happen around 6 months ago and sure am glad to find other people who has the same concerns. Lots of good information on this forum.
    3cyl likes this.
  14. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    "Bug IN" for this old curly wolf unless the situation looks to be getting so bad I absolutely MUST leave - Cat Five 'Cane coming down our throats, the PTB sending the jackboots to put us all on FEMA buses, the MZB's on the march from town, etc.....
    My neighborhood does not flood - I made sure before I bought property here and had rented avery short distance away. Being on the lee side of a ridge, most hard wind blows over us, not too much at ground level. I am on hte very edge of the Apalachicola National Forest, which I know intimately (riding MC's all over it!) - but I don't expect to use it for hunting - too many Bubba's that will deplete it quickly. But there are very good dirt/gravel roads heading up into southern Georgia. Leave early enough before a storm, my minivan can make it fine. Otherwise, the DS bike will get me OOD. I also am buying into a hunting lease with an old farm house (hunt club), TT parking, stream and two springs, lots of game. I can camp out there if my house is damaged and I begin repairs.
  15. Ytka

    Ytka Monkey+

    It depends on the situation. If at all possible, I'm going to bug in. If it gets too bad here, then I'll get out ASAP. If a viral outbreak happens, I'll stay in the house. If it looks like I'm going to have to fight to stay alive, then it's time to move on. I live in a town that's about 60% welfare/public housing leaches, 25% over 65 years old decent folks, and 15% younger, decent folks so my odds aren't good here. Yeah, I'm looking for somewhere else.
  16. BadgeBunny

    BadgeBunny Monkey+

    Buggin in here also. Plus my husband's job will require him to be at work while others are bailing ... I am not going without him.

    While bugging out sounds great and all, until you are done the homework and preparation to do so efficiently (and even then it could be a crap shoot) it is a very dangerous plan to fall back on IMHO.

    Talk to me again after our 5 year plan is done ...
  17. CrazySingleMom

    CrazySingleMom Monkey+

    Hmm, lets see here ... taking stock of my situation ..

    1. 3 kiddos in tow
    2. By myself, and not in great shape w- a few health issues
    3. Live in a fairly small town
    4. No $$ to buy land in the boondocks

    Well ... think I am bugging in if I can at all !! ;)

  18. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    If those are accurate odds, then it wouldn't sound very bad to me. The thing is of the 40 percent decent folks, how well prepped are they and what are they willing to do to survive. Life and survival ain't for sissies. Only you can decide whether to stay or go. Like Santa, I am making a list and checking it twice. Welfare puplic housing leeches already have 2 strikes against themselves in my book. If they have nothing worthwhile to bring to the table and can't pull their own weight and more they won't be welcome within the group that I suspect will band together for mutual support.
  19. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    But depending on where "up here" is, I left phoenix about 15 years ago, and sure am glad I did. I couldn't begin to take the heat anymore, and although it was hard , finding work etc. We survived, finally anyway. It is tough, but sure don't miss the noise, shootings, sirens, etc and all the general mess going on down there all the time...
  20. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Yup...planning is everything... but it's funny how I always have a feeling that my hamster is laughing whenever I start planning something...
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