After about 4 hours! I hate dial up with an old computer! Some of the pics aren't for those squemish about blood and such but it should be informative to anyone who has never butchered for themselves, which IMHO is among the very most important survival/self reliance skills. Hope it is helpful and let me know it there is more info needed, and how it can be improved when I do the one on beef and pork, assumeing there is some intrest in it. http://survivalmonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10999#10999