Cabin Plans? (Inexpensive and easy to build)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Yoldering, Oct 27, 2011.


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  1. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    All of the shipping containers are designed to support a pile of them. The frames on the corners are structurally sound enough, it's the sheet metal roofs that won't take a much more than walking on loads. So, yes, if you are burying them, you need to beef up the sheet metal quite a bit.
     
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  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    OR, just sheet the outside walls, with some 3/4" CDX Plywood, and Plank the roof with 2X12s.... Then compact the earth while you refill the hole, after installing the container. We have some folks, here in Alaska, that buried 24' Freezer Vans, one story under, and two stories, above Ground, with Stairways cut between stories, and sealed the Edges with welded sheet metal Strips. Top Container was the Living Room/BedRoom, and Kitchen/Bathroom in the Ground level, with Storage/Bunker, below Ground. They used a Navy Metal Hatch between the Ground Level, and Below Ground, containers to keep the EMP Proofing, solid Metal. Then cut in windows, and vents with the sheet metal siding. Each spring they open the Big Doors that are Above Ground and sweep out the dust & trash for Spring Cleaning.... ..... YMMV....
     
  3. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    All Conex containers are designed to be POINT loaded on the corners and centers. The "roof" is not sufficiently reinforced, even off of the line, to hold weight. So, ghrit and BT are correct, they need to be reinforced. That being said, a group of folks got 3 of them, painted the outsides with rubberized sealant, braced and reinforced the "roofs", set them side by side, cut doors and access points on the interios, joining the 3 (sealed with spray foam to close the gaping and then sealed wooden "thresholds" installed), and then buried them 6' under. They installed a corrugated pipe "escape tunnel" with a a steel hatch. In all it is rather nice, with the fresh air vents, solar power, outlets, the whole nine yards. I was envious when I saw this.
     
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  4. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    good ash or white oak posts peeled and planted on 8-12 foot centers
    sitting on a single bag of concrete mix dumped in the bottom of a 4 foot deep hole
    run stringers to tie them together, stringers can be small poles, planks or 2x stock
    level the tops of your poles and spike down top poles or plates
    notched flat to fit snug on your post tops
    slabwood can be used as siding, just put on one layer then cover the gaps with a second one
    if you plan good you can set ridge support posts when you set the side posts
    lay small poles across from the wall top plates to the ridge plate as rafters
    cover with slabwood thats half lapped
    whole building shouldnt cost you over $100 and most of that is nails
    if you want it better sealed, wrap it in roofing felt
     
  5. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    OK...I give in...I can only speak from my experience, which has had 2 40' reefer trailers buried for right at 25 years with just a 2" pipe frame inside to provide bracing...the top only has a brace going across the width and height every 8' and a pipe lengthwise on the sides and center. There is about 3' of dirt over them.

    Obviously, since 3 of people who I respect here have stated that it is impossible, I don't recommend it to anyone else. Apparently, I have been very lucky once again. I am constantly amazed at the things I did incorrectly during that period and got away with...

    Had conexes been available locally at that time, I would have used them and assumed that they would work because things don't fall out the bottom when they are hoisted...my neighbor has one buried, but the top is only covered with about a foot of dirt...I will warn him.

    Again...don't try this at home...I would not have done so after hearing Ghrit, BT and falcon... :)
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Reefer trailers are apt to be constructed differently from shipping containers, the "rules" will be different. Also, shipping container floors are not light sheetmetal, they are designed for loading. Floor loads are carried structurally to the corners where the loads are transferred to the next box below it.

    No worries, nothing is impossible ---

    [peep]
     
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  7. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    Interesting...might they work upside down or is it bracing in the wrong direction?
     
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Dunno, never occured to me to look. I have my doubts it would go upside down, but it's possible. Would have to look.
     
  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I have seen what a conex looks like, after sliding off the forks of a 60K Lbs Forklift, after being raised to full height extension, and then tilted forward, to get the water off the top. This thing had 40K Lbs of Canned Salmon inside, and when it hit the ground, it folded up like an empty Beer Can, in Paul Bunyon's fist. The floor was intact, but bent, and the rest was unrecognizable. .... YMMV.... Oh yea, they fired the forklift driver on the spot.... $50K Insurance Loss.....
     
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  10. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

  11. pmbug

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  12. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    semi traliers were not designed to hold a load anywhere but on the floor
    they buckle and collapse real easy
    basically tin cans with a good floor
    ive worked on enuff of them and seen too many crumpled up from just tipping over
     
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