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cache making materials ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by whynot, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. whynot

    whynot Monkey++

    Anyone used one of the MTM survivor ammo can/bucket yet?

    Any better ideas for a cheap / no tools required to open cache?

  2. KAS

    KAS Monkey++

    pvc pipe with a screw on lid or a slip on lid ...
    plastic drum with screw on lid 15 bucks all day in La 35 or 55 gallon...or sometimes free
    just look around and use your imagination ....
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  3. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

    Don't forget to use the dry ice to force the oxygen out.. Be careful or the pressure will rupture the barrel.. See the attached file for hints..

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  4. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    What ever you use drop a sheet of non permeable membrane over it to form a water shield. It also keep water from rising to the top of your container. Rubber roofing is an excellent choice. Has a tremendous life and will not puncture easily like plastic. "Camo/ing" your cache with lots of metal scattered around may save it from unwanted eyes. One, two, or even three "layers" of such above might save it.
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  5. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

    When I moved to the hills, I had some gear stashed in a polly barrel double covered with plastic tarps. The next spring that barrel was half full of water.. Make sure any barrels are well sealed..
  6. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Foodsaver vacuume seal bags on a roll for longer objects + hollow tree.

    .50 BMG steel ammo can + Rock wall <--- Lots of those up here all over the place, good for winter access as long as you can lif the rocks.
  7. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

    Rock wall is exollent advice.. Have had food saver bags loose their vaccume , would be sure double seal bags.. Was telling friends that re one basketally need to have cache's all around the hills.. Don't ever put all the eggs in one basket, as you wouldn't leave your self with only one way out of a retreat. Didn't work for Waco..
  8. William Antrum

    William Antrum GunMetal Monkey

    jus' what I thunk...
  9. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

    One must think of all that could go wrong or happen, then have someone else think it over and then compare notes...
  10. whynot

    whynot Monkey++

    Double post... Fun with dumb phone.

    Last edited: Oct 17, 2013
  11. whynot

    whynot Monkey++

    35 gallon is a little bigger hole than I am up for digging. :)

    I was thinking 5 gallon bucket sized with a screw top lid about 6-8" deep. I like the roof membrane idea with some lava rocks over the whole thing.

    No food or water in these. Ammo and supplies only.

    Photo to the left shows the type of area I am in. Fire is also a serious concern. Any thoughts? Sage brush and cheat grass burn prety quick but desert ground is hard and is usually lava rock or hard pan at around 3 ft.

  12. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

    If the smaller sizes are all that you want to handle at a time then that is best.. Know all about tough digging. I don't want to dig a post hole unless I have a backhoe.. Ground is nothing but rocks.. Do not think fire would be that much of an issue as long as buckets are buries with about a foot of overburdan on them.. Use use compass triangulation as well as gps to locate your stash's.. GPS may not be available.. I am sorry, am assuming to much..
  13. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I would've count on GPS for finding stuff... Much better to use blazed Trees, or physical and natural Markers...
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  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    You could use RF chips as locators, only thing that would be likely to find them would be a RF scanner. not enough metal for a metal detector, no power source needed to be buried, and you would need to be fairly close to pick it up at all.
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Or you could bury a railroad spike or horse shoe on the tops.
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  16. whynot

    whynot Monkey++

    Spot I have picked out is in a sea of sage brush that is used as a national guard training area, "THE" local spot to go shoot / off road, and a bird sanctuary. It is also covered in ground squirrel holes. Plenty of natural land marks, disturbed ground and miscellaneous metal strewn about. The problem as I see it will be finding a quiet time to dig a hole when it is not 110 or 30 degrees with a 25 mph wind.

  17. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    No, bad idea. any punk with a metal detector could take yous stash with ease. the ideas was to AVOID a metal detector.
  18. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Kind of hard if you are hiding a weapon, not to have a Magnetic Signature.... Better to bury it vertical to narrow down that signature.. And deep to keep it small and low... Then put some OLD rusty tin cans half way, Between you prize and the surface...
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2013
  19. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    or a layer of sheet lead.over top of the metal. I pulled a few hundred pounds of sheet lead out of a dentist's wall, during a renovation.
  20. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I stand corrected, most coils will pick up lead.

    "2. How deep do metal detectors detect metals?

    This is the most frequently asked question and unfortunately the most difficult to answer! Most General Purpose models are factory equipped to search for coin and jewelry sized metals at depths of 8 to 12+ inches, depending on metal size and alloy. To significantly and consistently detect beyond 12 inches requires larger accessory search coils, and/or to give up attempts to eliminate trash metals. The 15" search coil responding to all metal alloys can detect larger metal items (coin jars) at depths up to four feet. However, sensitivity to single coins is greater with smaller search coils. White's TM 808 can detect 55-gallon drums at 16 feet and car-sized metals at 20 feet. However, it is not likely to respond to individual coins or pieces of jewelry."
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