Cartridge Compat. like 357/38 and others

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Blackjack, Oct 21, 2006.


  1. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I'm curious about all the calibers with alternate ammo possibilities like shooting 38 spc through my 357. Will any other like 38 Super or 38 Long Colt work?

    I know with 32 H&R mag you can use 32 S&W Long, any others?

    I've heard 45 Long Colt in a .410, sounds iffy to me.


    Anybody an expert on compatibilities?

    Good stuff to know post SHTF for scrounging.
     
  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    >38 super is a rimless cartridge and won't work unless use a moon clip (like the .45 acp moon clips) to allow shooting in a revolver.
     
  3. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Both just guesses
    .22 short in a .22 long?
    .22LR, .22short in a .22mag?

    I think you may have covered them.
    Some bbls are stamped .410 / 45 long colt My Contender is.
    Just make sure your .410 bbl isn't choked [shock]
     
  4. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    45 LC also works in .454 Casull
    44 Special works in 44 Mag
     
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    44 spl in 44 mag is ok as noted.
    41 spl is OK in 41 mag, I'm pretty sure.
    The guys at the handloaders Bench will have some scoop. Also, some time back G&A had an article on this subject. Can't find the issue, but it was a year or so back. Quite a few compatiblities exist, as it turned out. Be wary of 9mm, there are some good and very bad matches.
     
  6. ridgerunner58

    ridgerunner58 Monkey+++

    .44 Russian will fit in .44 spl & .44 mag...but not vice-vers.
    .38 Smith & Wesson can be fired in .38 spl & 357 mag.

    I do not think I'd try a .22 long rifle in a .22 mag
     
  7. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    CARTRIDGE INTERCHANGEABILITY CHART
    ------------------------------------
    Cartridges within the groups shown are interchangeable. Other
    substitutions should not be made without specific recommendation
    of the firearms manufacturer, since improper combinations could
    result in firearm damage or personal injury.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    RIMFIRE
    22 W.R.F.
    22 Remington Special
    22 Win. Model 2890 in a 22 Win. Mag Rimfire but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    CENTERFIRE
    25-20 Remington
    25-20 W.C.F.
    25-20 Win.
    25-20 Win. High Speed
    25-20 Marlin
    25 W.C.F.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    6mm Rem. (80 & 90 grain)
    244 Rem.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    25 Automatic
    25 Auto. Colt Pistol (ACP)
    25 (6.35mm) Automatic Pistol
    6.35 Browning
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    7mm Express (TM) Rem.
    280 Rem.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    30-30 Sav.
    30-30 Win.
    30-30 Win. Accelerator*
    30-30 Marlin
    30-30 Win. High Speed
    30 W.C.F
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32 Colt Automatic
    32 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP)
    32 (7.65mm) Automatic Pistol
    7.65mm Automatic Pistol
    7.65mm Browning (not interchangeable with 7.65mm Luger)
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32 Short Colt in 32 Long Colt but not conversely
    SEE NOTE C
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32 S. & W. in 32 S. & W. Long but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32 S. & W. Long
    32 Colt New Police
    32 Colt Police Positive
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32 W.C.F.*
    32 Win.*
    32-20 Win. High Speed*
    SEE NOTE A
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    32-20 Colt L.M.R.
    32-20 W.C.F.
    32-20 Win. and Marlin
    SEE NOTE G
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 S. & W.
    38 Colt New Police
    380 Webley
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 Colt Special
    38 S. & W. Special
    38 Targetmaster (R)
    38 S. & W. Special Mid-Rage
    38 Special (+P)
    38-44 Special (+P)
    38 Special
    38 Special Flat Point
    SEE NOTES B & D
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 Short Colt in 38 Long Colt but not conversely;
    Both can be used in 38 Special
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 Marlin
    38 Win.*
    SEE NOTE A
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 Remington*
    38-40 Win.
    38 W.C.F.*
    SEE NOTE A
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    38 Automatic in 38 Super (+P) but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    380 Automatic
    9mm Browning Short (Corto, Kurz)
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    9mm Luger
    9mm Parabellum
    SEE NOTE E
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    44 S. & W. Special
    SEE NOTE F
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Marlin
    44 Win.
    44 Remington
    44-40 Win.
    44 W.C.F.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    45-70 Government
    45-70 Marlin
    45-70 Win.
    45-70-405
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    NOTE A: *High-speed cartridges must not be used in revolvers.
    They should be used only in rifles made expecially for
    them.
    NOTE B: Ammunition with (+P) on the case headstamp is loaded to
    higher pressure. Use only in firearms designated for
    this cartridge and so recommended by the gun manufacturer.
    NOTE C: Not for use in revolvers chambered for 32 S. & W. or
    32 S. & W. Long.
    NOTE D: All 38 Special cartridges can be used in 357 Magnum
    revolvers but not conversely.
    NOTE E: 9mm sub-machine gun cartridges should not be used in
    handguns.
    NOTE F: 44 Russian and 44 S. & W. Special can be used in 44
    Remington Magnum revolvers but not conversely.
    NOTE G: Not to be used in Win. M-66 and M-73.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    SOURCE: 1993 Remington Products Catalog

    Not listed in Remington's information are the following:
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    .38 Special and .357 Mag. in .357 Maximum, but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    .44 Special and .44 Mag. in .445 Super Mag, but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    .45 Long Colt in .454 Casull, but not conversely
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Also, there are many examples of cartridges that can be "fire-
    formed" in larger chambers (eg. firing a .300 H&H in a .300 Wby)
    but I'll leave off here for now.
    . . . . . . . . .
     
  8. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I'd say that pretty much covers it! :)

    Thanks
     
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