Charlie Kirk Assassinated in Utah

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 3M-TA3, Sep 10, 2025.

  1. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Keep in mind that what you heard was limited first by the equipment that recorded it and the acoustic environment and then by the equipment you heard it on. The sound pressure levels when it was recorded would have clipped the recording changing the sound signature as well.

    I'm not saying there is not a coverup or conspiracy but I'm not saying there was one either. I'm waiting on the full report before I speculate further.
     
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  2. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I'm going with my theory of old ammo and weak, keyhole in the neck or ballistic tip ammo that explodes because I've seen this in a .308 acts funny with no exit hole, Plain dumb luck hitting the man in the neck, that's my thoughts.
     
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  3. sasquatch91

    sasquatch91 Monkey+++

    I agree. I think the bullet fragmented, chunk went up and did the killing. Just plain luck there.
     
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  4. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    New video tosses it all on it's head, Charley was shot through the head from the side, new high def video shows it all!
    Warning, Very Graphic Content, view at your own risk
     
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  5. sasquatch91

    sasquatch91 Monkey+++

    Meh, his shirt sure moves fully for that shot. Jmho.
     
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  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    50 degree angle from above and behind? Erm, wasn't he under a tent with a background? someone would have needed to be a savant and shoot through concealment. And probably shooting out of a helo to get that rise over run required for the entry/exit angle.
    Call me skeptical.
     
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  7. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I ran the numbers based on the photo of the Man Schrub, it's less then the 8.3 deg the alleged shooter shot from, this new evidence says it was only 5.4 deg downward.
    Bullets do funny things when impacting flesh, the mighty .30/06 is well documented for deflecting on impact especially with FMJ ammo, and especially in Garand Safe loads, so, a deflection that far would be common enough to be expected of that caliber! If this was a full pop factory load or hand load, this deflection wouldn't have happened!
     
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  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    This isn't accurate. The close up they show of the entrance blood splatter is just Charlie's necklace. This can be proven with the already released footage from the other side angle.

    Now, I've been watching Candace every day since the shooting of her friend. If anybody is going to get to the bottom of this, it's her. And she's been all over this. She got to see the video from the camera just behind Charlie, the one that was immediately grabbed by a long time employee of TP USA. And Candace said she saw absolutely no blood. None, zero. Now, there's another development with the autopsy if you guys missed it. Apparently, from a close source to Charlie who got to question the surgeon or whoever was working on Charlie...there was no exit wound. And the bullet was "just beneath the surface" of his skin. It's all over social media by now. Yeah, it was said it was "a miracle" that Charlie just stopped the bullet. They know his crowd, they think they know, anyway. So they are going with the miracle side of evidence it seems.

    This won't hold up to scrutiny.

    Anyway guys, that's all we have at the moment. Until we have more developments, I'm not making any assumptions and will continue to watch Candace. But I do know the official narrative is complete B.S.
     
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  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member


    Latest from Candace. She just reported that she verified that Charlie was not wearing body armor at all. This is from a close source she trusts. This means the official narrative is highly suspect and the ballistics doesn't make sense at all -we have a physics problem.

    We can only surmise that we don't know enough to draw conclusions about how he was assassinated, but we do know that the information we've been given doesn't add up. At the 25:00 mark, Candace covers some details from an eyewitness who took a video of the suspect on the rooftop. He claims a smaller rifle was used which would more accurately reflect the ballistics., not the large 30-06.

    Here's the problem we are now faced with. Why fake the shooting information at all? The FBI is reporting false information, but why? The key piece that fits here is the alleged shooter. He's a young, intelligent man who reportedly attended the university which has strong CIA ties recruiting. He's from a right wing family and reportedly has a trans lover and possible Antifa influence. This whole event spells out a narrative which incites strong resentment and further divide between the Left and Right. This could be used to steer all of this politically. Does anybody honestly believe the FBI would come right out and claim this was a professional bit by Mossad? I mean, seriously? They would instead use the story they probably got handed to them because the truth would be so incredible, so damaging that it would not only harm U.S. and Israeli relations, but the current Administration, which is already on shaky ground trying to hang on to legitimate control as it is. Just an idea.

    As for the suspect...pure speculation at this point until we have solid evidence. But, he could have easily been indoctrinated, puffed up and preened and then led into this. He could have been told to be at a certain place, bring the rifle, leave it here, climb up on the roof, then jump down and run to the woods and come back to meet up. Whatever, any story will fit. We just don't know. He might have thought he was a part of a CIA op to do just about anything. He could have been set up to be a distraction, knowingly or not, we are just speculating. Think about his situation, he's a bright young man and he definitely has some connection being on campus. We have to question everything right now and try to be patient as more develops.
     
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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Damn...this should start making sense now. Can you connect the dots?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/-d5W5Phs3uo?si=4XTT8Mm5lSqY1xlK
    Well funded and organized. This is why they need to go with this version of events.
    And the dream team FBI is going along with it. Protecting Trump and gaining some power - or - tell the truth and the fallout destroys their whole reality. The future looks pretty bleak. We are on the cusp of a violent uprising.
     
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  11. Maria739

    Maria739 Monkey

    Did some compartmentalised group of feds write the messages between the shooter and his tranny furry lover?

    At the very least to try to "humanise" a favoured group that committed a terrorist act? To control the tranny narrative?
    To nudge the population away from anger against a certain group, standard procedure in Western countries?
    (see DOJ "Community Relations" or UK "controlled spontaneity")

    FBI says three Charlie Kirk 'conspiracy theories' involving text messages, hand signals and a second shooter could be TRUE | Daily Mail Online
    https://x.com/DDGSarah/status/1968035341660721208

    Tranny zoomers don't talk like this, sounds like feds:

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  12. Maria739

    Maria739 Monkey

    "Transgoblins and their Reddit-brained fondlers (collectively, the “mentally unwell”) make up the lower ranks of Antifa.

    The middle ranks are shitlibs from the FBI, CIA, Special Forces (yes, there are a ton of shitlib “de oppresso liber” Green Berets), and other branches of the national security apparatus. This is where all the tactical “advice” comes from in Discord channels.

    The highest ranks are the financiers. Billionaires and foreign countries that hate the United States and launder their influence through Antifa so they can attack the United States from the inside. It’s a legitimate terrorist organization that must be defeated immediately, otherwise it will continue to destroy this country."
    https://x.com/BowTiedRanger/status/1966916378843377998

    And of course foreign (NATO, Five Eyes and others, especially Canada) and domestic federal and state and local funding too

    As well as Democrat donors who use Arabella Advisors, which disburses their funding to 50,000+ NGOs, starting with the most 'respectable' antifa front groups like the National Lawyers Guild, Drug Policy Alliance, ACLU, etc who then disburse to smaller more radical NGOs, who then disburse to even smaller more violent groups, to infinite degrees giving the donors deniability
     
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  13. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    While I certainly entertain alternative theories on about anything, I've seen so many wild, out there, theories about this. I keep coming back to the saying
    "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."
     
  14. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    When Trump declared Antifa a terrorist gang with in days I knew a connect had been made and a hard connection, I want too see a bunch of raids on these asshats!
     
  15. Maria739

    Maria739 Monkey

    I understand that Trump's declaration is mostly symbolic, a matter of group classification for US law enforcement,
    which has no status under US law. Antifa will be investigated as any other extremist group that commits crimes.
    (this is a big step since many seem to pretend that Antifa does not exist)

    But I hope that this is merely a 1st step to declaring them a foreign terrorist organization,

    which would truly bring tremendous resources and enforcement efforts including against the donors.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/andy-ngo-reports-antifa-could-soon-be-branded-a-foreign-terror-group

    (which might also be complicated since many of the donors have a long connection to the US security state/deep state itself)

    If Trump never designates antifa as an FTO even with increasing attacks,
    then we'll know how powerful the deep state is even within the Trump admin :eek:
     
  16. FTG-05

    FTG-05 Monkey+++

    I can't express the sorrow and anger over Charlie's murder. These will have to do. :(:(:(

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  17. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Remember the exploding pagers that Mossad used to take out key terrorists within Hamas a while back? Remember that and then watch this...

    At the 28:00 mark the topic settles in to this very idea. The lapel mic that Charlie wore may have exploded. This is just a theory at this point, but it does fit. The only issue is, the mic is on the opposite side of his neck from where we see the horrible wound, be it entry or exit. Regardless, this needs to also be considered. Any sound we hear of a rifle firing may have only been an audible fake. This does all fit within the realm of possibilities we should be exploring. As an aside, if it wasn't his mic, it could have been his necklace, it could have been something else -we just don't know for certain. But the more the videos are closely analyzed, the stranger this all becomes.

    jonbray. This is the magnetic base to the mic, similar to what Charlie may have worn. It goes beneath the shirt and magnetically pulls the mic to itself from the other side. The mic could have been fitted with explosives, this is not a crazy theory, it is possible. How likely, we will have to figure out.

    I still haven't analyzed the footage myself. I will admit, it troubles me. But, from what I have seen, my immediate thought was an explosive round. This does not look anything like a 30 caliber high velocity wound. The shot could have come from under the table for all we know. Actually, I don't see how it could have been anything else besides an explosive device at this stage. The slow motion video footage shows the shirt expanding rapidly in the front, followed immediately by the wound. No bullet known to this physical world will cause a shirt to do this. If it was the lapel microphone, it would have had to enter the front of Charlie's body and exit the neck on his left. Also, from the rear we do see his shirt expanding outward as well, but no blood. I can only handle watching this so many times on repeat. It really does look like an explosive PETN charge to me.

    The whole event was an op. The rifle sound was a deception. This is even worse than the lone gunman scenario in a way.
     
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  18. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Watch the people when the shot rings out. They don't all look towards the rooftop, they look everywhere. If you have ever had a suppressed round fired over your head, you'll know that you can't determine the direction because the crack seems to come from all directions. The more times I see it, the more convincing this becomes to me. The shooter gets the death penalty but more likely life, gets "killed" in prison and we never hear anything else while he and his boyfriend grow old on CIA island.
     
  19. Fairlaneford

    Fairlaneford Monkey

    That's what I was speculating about myself a couple pages back. Not a bullet, not behaving like one should, unless it's another "magic bullet" and it was stopped by Charlie's "magic neck". :rolleyes: The explosive microphone magnet is worth investigating. Or even something more exotic, perhaps a directed-energy weapon, or mini-guided projectile homing in on the most lethal spot: the carotid artery. Something had to account for lack of an exit wound that a .30 caliber bullet would have caused. The audible crack of a gunshot could have been a deception produced by who knows what.
     
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  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    The medical examiner explained the lack of an exit wound. And any hunter knows how bullets tumble and may or may not exit.
    The ME said that the bullet entered at a downward trajectory and struck the spine where it traveled downward along the spine fracturing and sending fragments into his heart.
    All this hysteria about no exit wound is basing that on a straight on shot. I've shot deer from a tree stand in the chest and had the bullet exit out thier hindquarters.

    Hoofbeats
     
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