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Chris Kyle killed

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CATO, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Tangential Question: Should you go to a shooting range if you have PTSD?

    Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle was killed in Texas today. No real details have been given except he and one other person were killed and a suspect was taking into custody. Chris Kyle had the most confirmed kills of any sniper with 150+ kills. He will be missed.

    Kyle was shot point-blank while helping another soldier who was recovering from post traumatic stress syndrome, officials said. The murders happened at a shooting range near the town of Glen Rose, about 53 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

    The Erath County Sheriff's Office issued an alert for the arrest of the suspect, who was later identified as Eddie Routh, 25. Officials warned that Routh was traveling in a Ford F-150 pickup with large tires and rims. They said he was believed to be highly trained with military experience.

    Routh was reportedly later captured in Lancaster, south of Dallas.

    Investigators believe Routh, a former Marine, turned his weapon on Kyle and the second victim before fleeing the scene.

    Thank you for your service and God Bless you and those you leave behind.

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  2. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  3. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Aw sh#t.
  4. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    When are officials going to take PTSD seriously? When is the VA going to stop drugging the crap out of our vets. When will our vets receive the help they really need. This shooter was probably drugged up on SSRI drugs and like all these shootings we see, just lost it. The report that came out this week about vets should have been a wake up call but it got buried because... it's superbowl week! When is this country going to get their priorities straight.
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  5. CATO

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  6. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    Kyle was shot at point-blank range "while helping another soldier who was recovering from post traumatic stress syndrome" at a range near the town of Glen Rose.
    PTSD & soldier, those were enough to get me fired up. Friday after the report came out about vets and suicides, I listened to a radio show. Vets were calling in and it was heart breaking. They are not getting the proper help, they are waiting months to get treatment. As I understand C. Kyle was trying to help a fellow soldier who snapped (my opinion).

    Now let me put on my tin foil hat. I swear I read on this site about Dr's asking vets about guns. Is it going to be that our vets are not allowed to own guns until some VA officials deem they are stable?
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  7. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    If the shooter in the Chris Kyle murder was a vet with PTSD, or a even a military vet with no criminal record, then look for this incident to be used by the MSM and Obamunists as a stepping stone toward legislation that severely restricts the gun rights of any veteran who has been in a combat zone, or has received even the lightest of pyschological counseling.--- (ie"Never let a crisis go to waste.")
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  8. CATO

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  9. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Chris Kyle, military's deadliest sniper, is killed on Texas gun range - U.S. - Stripes

    FORT WORTH, Texas — Chris Kyle, a former Navy SEAL and the U.S. military's most lethal sniper, was fatally shot Saturday along with another man on the gun range of Rough Creek Lodge, a posh resort just west of Glen Rose, Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant said.

    A suspect was arrested about five hours later in Lancaster, southeast of Dallas, more than 70 miles from the scene, Bryant said.

    The suspect, identified as Eddie Ray Routh, 25, was pursued to a house in Lancaster by officers, including a local SWAT team. Routh tried to flee in a vehicle but was stopped about 9 p.m. after spikes were laid across a road, Bryant said.

    "The suspect has been caught and is in custody in Lancaster," he said. Erath County sheriff's investigators and Texas Rangers were securing a capital murder warrant, he said.

    Witnesses told sheriff's investigators that the gunman opened fire on the two men around 3:30 p.m., then fled in a pickup belonging to one of the victims. The Sheriff's Department didn't get a call until around 6 p.m.

    Rough Creek Lodge is 77 miles southwest of Fort Worth between Glen Rose and Hico.
    The motive for the shootings remains unclear, Bryant said. "Not a clue, absolutely no idea."

    WFAA/Channel 8 quoted unnamed sources as saying that Kyle, who lived in Midlothian, and a neighbor had taken Routh on an outing to help him deal with post-traumatic stress disorder. Routh turned on the men and shot them in the back, the report said.
    The sheriff said he could not confirm how the victims were shot.

    In January 2012, the Cleburne Times-Review reported that Routh, of Lancaster, was arrested in Johnson County on suspicion of driving while intoxicated. Public records show that Routh previously lived in Camp LeJeune, N.C., a major Marine base.
    Kyle, 38, who is survived by a wife and two children, was the author of American Sniper, a 2012 autobiography.

    A 1992 graduate of Midlothian High School, he attended Tarleton State University. He tried to join the Navy in 1996 but was rejected after a physical exam revealed pins in his arm from a rodeo injury.

    Three years later, Kyle was working on a ranch in Colorado when a Navy recruiter called. He was trained as a sniper and served 10 years.

    He never disclosed exactly how many enemy combatants he shot, but the Pentagon certified more than 150 of his kills during four tours in Iraq. Some news reports credited him with up to 255. His confirmed kills exceeded the exploits of legendary Marine Carlos Hathcock, whom Kyle called "the best sniper in the world." Hathcock had 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam.

    In all, Kyle was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, and two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals.

    "I don't care about the medals," Kyle told the Star-Telegram in a 2012 interview. "I didn't do it for the money or the awards. I did it because I felt like it was something that needed to be done and it was honorable. I loved the guys."

    A member of SEAL Team 3, Kyle picked off his targets from rooftops or windows of abandoned buildings during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which toppled Saddam Hussein. Primarily serving as a sniper and wounded twice, he provided "overwatch" protection for Marines and other U.S. troops and earned a reputation for his proficiency.

    Most shots ranged from 200 to 1,200 yards. His longest and most remarkable kill — from 1.2 miles away — took out an insurgent aiming a rocket launcher at an approaching Army convoy.

    During the second battle of Fallujah, Kyle said, he killed about 40 insurgents. He shot several through an apartment window while lying atop an overturned baby crib.

    From a second-story perch in Ramadi, Kyle spotted two men approaching on a motor scooter. As it slowed, the rider in back dropped a backpack into a pothole, setting an improvised explosive device.

    As the scooter sped up, Kyle fired once from about 200 yards, taking aim at "center mass," the middle of the body.

    "Like a laser," he said of his .300 Winchester Magnum. With the men still seated upright, the scooter wobbled, veered and crashed into a wall. "Bullet went through both of them," Kyle said.

    "The taxpayer got good bang for his buck on that one," he wrote.
    According to Army intelligence, he said, Iraqi insurgents nicknamed him al-Shaitan Ramad — "the Devil of Ramadi."

    After the service, Kyle became president of Craft International, a Dallas firm that provided military and law enforcement sniper training as well as private security.
    The deadliest sniper in U.S. military history was scheduled to speak Feb. 27 at Tarrant County College Northwest Campus in Fort Worth. The four-hour presentation, "Preparing a Warrior's Heart," was to cover having the "mindset" for survival, being prepared for a fight and "being OK in the aftermath."

    Kyle wrote in American Sniper that he had zero remorse for his combat kills. Every person he shot, he said, was trying to harm Americans or Iraqis loyal to the new government.

    As the son of a deacon, as a husband and as a protective father of two young children, Kyle wrote, "I can stand before God with a clear conscience about doing my job."
  10. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    I sure that the left will use this as a reason to ban all vets with PTSD from owning a weapon....
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  11. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    They're already celebrating:

    Liberals on Twitter celebrate murder of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

    Chris Kyle, a former Navy SEAL and author of "American Sniper," was murdered Saturday afternoon at a gun range 53 miles outside Fort Worth, Tex. While many in the country mourned his loss, Twitchy reported Sunday that a number of anti-gun liberals on Twitter mocked and celebrated his murder.

    "I am absolutely against guns being used for any reason, but in the matter of Chris Kyle, I'd have to say it was poetic justice," one person wrote.

    "All u hypocrites can miss me with the Chris Kyle American Sniper sympathy bulls**t, I call his death karma. Feel for his family not him," said another user on Twitter.

    "Chris Kyle was killed at a gun how ironic lol live by the gun die by the gun now I really believe he had it coming to him," said "Patricia."

    "[O]h the irony! lol," added "GrantT."

    A number of Twitter users called his murder "karma," while many, like "GrantT," apparently thought Kyle's murder was something to laugh about.

    "LOL to the kid who compared Chris Kyle's death to the movie Shootout," said "Sean Flynn."

    Kyle, who leaves behind a wife and two children, served four tours of duty in Iraq, was wounded twice and has 160 confirmed kills, WFAA reported.

    He was discharged from the Navy in 2009 and became the president of Craft International, a company that trains military and law enforcement professionals.

    WFAA said that multiple agencies, including the Texas Rangers, are involved in the investigation and one suspect, 25-year-old Eddie Routh, a Marine veteran reportedly suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, was arrested after a short pursuit.

    Kyle, WFAA added, was active in helping veterans who suffer from PTSD.

    "Our foundation, FITCO Cares, this country and most importantly, his wife Taya and their children, lost a dedicated father and husband, a lifelong patriot and an American hero," said Travis Cox, director of FITCO Cares Foundation, an organization dedicated to helping veterans with PTSD.

    "Chris was a wonderful man, a good friend, and a true American hero who loved our country and served honorably. He was loved and admired by so many, and he will never be forgotten," Sarah Palin wrote on Facebook Saturday.
  12. CATO

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  13. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    I believe you may be correct. This could get really sticky if the try to disarm all veterans. The real cause won't be addressed and worked on but the anti-gun agenda will continue to blame the object.

    As for all those people on the web saying Kyle got what he deserves, may they rot. These are the same type of people that spit on my Uncle when he got back from Vietnam.
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  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    This is horrible. Kyle was an honorable, good man who did not deserve to die in this manner.
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  15. Moatengator

    Moatengator Monkey

    A great American, may he Rest In Peace,,,,Prayers out for his family.
  16. ditch witch

    ditch witch resident bacon hoarder Site Supporter+

    I can't read the comments on the articles. These sick twists celebrate the murder of someone they have never met and know nothing about.

    Karma they say. I suspect they will find out what a merry b$(#ch she is some day, and I hope there are no armed Good Samaritans around to save their hateful, spiteful hides.
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  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Funny how they come out to dance in the blood of the fallen. Be it from 6 to 80...
    Karma indeed will be sweet poetic justice..I have my dance shoe's on for them !
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  18. Dawg23

    Dawg23 do or do not, there is no try

    PTSD is a horrible thing. one of my good friends, suffers from it, and i am there to support him, and do whatever he needs. I know he has good days and bad days, and i know just being a stable rock for him, helps alot. Sherman was right, War is Hell....

    the casualties of war are not just the killed and wounded, everyone is affected by it.
  19. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Fing POS people.
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  20. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Since I do NOT Twitter, I can't put this challenge to those that disRespect our Veterans, HOWEVER, I challenge any of them to "Put your skin, in the Game, or Shut the F..... Up" I challenge YOU To walk up to a exSEAL, and tell those things, to HIS FACE" If you can't see your way clear to DO THAT, Then you are a Hypocrite..... and the worst kind of COWARD...
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