Ciener in the joint......

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Seawolf1090, Nov 6, 2011.


  1. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

  2. jim2

    jim2 Monkey+++

    I saw some generalized fraud charges, but with TPTB nowadays, I have to wonder if something else is going on.

    jim
     
  3. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Wow.

    I have some of his conversion and love them
     
  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    The buzz on a couple other forums is that he had a habit of accepting payment and then NOT delivering the product. Eventually, that constitutes FRAUD. The Goobermint takes a dim view of competition. :D
     
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  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Dude looks like The Grinch That Stole Christmas...
    Seen's he stole plenty from some people....
     
  7. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member


    Not my views, just kicking out some info on it. quig

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    LOL he's relaxing watching the raid..LOL
     
  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Dang, John Melvin will be crushed....... :D

    Hmmm.... some of the same behaviors. Either doing something illegal or trying to coerce others to do it. Not a good business practice. Do these kinds of guys really believe they'll never get caught?
     
  9. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    There is no need to buy a Ceiner kit anymore since there are a dozen or so reputible manufacturers making their own versions of the original.
     
  10. flatlander

    flatlander Monkey+

    I knew John 20+ years ago. When I knew him he was an honorable man. This is too bad.

    BOB
     
  11. GeneC

    GeneC Monkey+



    Same here....I have his .22conv for 1911 and AR......both work great.....imo, this guy is a legend in conversions and suppressors.....I doubt he did anything wrong, but it's his company and he's responsible...I'd look at his office managers, Ms Monica.
     
  12. GeneC

    GeneC Monkey+


    HAHAHA!! Now that's funny right there!!:D:D:D
     
  13. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I have dealt with Ceiner for years and own several of his products and they have always functioned flawlessly and every time I have ordered on-line or phone, have had my products delivered. I have always known him to be an upright and honest man, as far as my dealings have been.
     
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  14. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    These anti Ceiner sites have been around for years. Someone has been trying to destroy him for a long time.

    Its a little frightening how quickly we swallow the government story when one of the gun community is in trouble. JAC hangs in the same circle as John Ross.


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  15. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    CarolinaShootersForum.com - View Single Post - Arrested: Jonathan Arthur Ciener
     
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  16. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I don't know him any better than I do the government.
    I find it a little disturbing that every time someone gets fame or money they go bug **** crazy they think they are the end all for political views or above some law.
    Time will tell who's right . between him and the Gov.


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  17. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    Without inside knowledge, and given the choice of Ciener or the ATF...I'll believe Ciener by default.

    I don't know he's a scumbag.
     
  18. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Agreed 100%, no question.
     
  19. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    I never heard of him until this thread. It seems most of you like the guy or at least respect his work. I dont care for the BATF . So Ill wait and see what happens. KF
     
  20. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Very good point.
     
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