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Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by ghrit, Nov 21, 2005.

  1. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    I have no clue if this is real or something ginned up by a wishful thinker. No matter, it is food for thought.

    Eight Steps To Destroy America


    We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that
    context, his thoughts are particularly poignant.

    Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in
    Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds
    and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis
    talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, explaining how immigration -
    both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California.
    He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all
    vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and
    gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat
    spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the
    United States.

    He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied,
    too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No
    nation in history has survived the ravages of time.

    Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and
    that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit

    "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: (First) ;"Turn America into a
    bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that
    no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or
    more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an
    individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be

    "The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories
    of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are
    histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia,
    Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press
    for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided.
    Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with
    Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

    Lamm went on: (Second:) "Invent 'multi-culturalism' and encourage
    immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of
    belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural
    differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and
    Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the
    majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

    "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much
    effort. (Third:) The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As
    Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent
    success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have
    been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony.

    Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it
    meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism
    to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to
    keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot
    metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we
    have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their
    differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

    "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least
    educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated,
    and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass
    have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

    "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations
    and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in
    ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.'

    I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault
    of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority
    failure on the majority population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and
    promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I
    would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people
    worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they
    are not killing each other."

    "A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical
    precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation
    together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they
    belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and
    literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in
    the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet
    all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local
    patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political
    divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that
    historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of
    the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

    "Next to last, (Seventh:) I would place all subjects off limits ~ make
    it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would
    find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped
    discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe'
    halt discussion and debate."

    "Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established
    multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of
    'Victimology,' (Eighth:) I would next make it impossible to enforce our
    immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has
    been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every
    individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of
    millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound
    silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson
    Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to
    destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't
    read that book."

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous
    cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that
    room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically,
    quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every
    discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the
    foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric
    cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we
    celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World
    as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of
    California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and
    growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that
    story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building:
    "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

    Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
    conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is
    deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration
    monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California
    wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American
  2. RightHand

    RightHand Pioneer in a New World Moderator Founding Member

    Good read ghrit. Thanks
  3. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

  4. Conagher

    Conagher Dark Custom Rider Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Awesome read ghrit [bow] Now hopefully the message will spread throughout our system and something can be done to stop the alien invasion of this great country. You know those people that listened to Lamm's speech are most likely still talking about it [winkthumb] That at least is a start to people finally waking up to the fact that it's happening and something must be done about it.
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Wow, that was amazing. I love reverse psychology. I hope it really did have that effect on the audience...

    In the area I live, such a speech would receive no such attention, for those who would be listening will most likely be snoring by the third sentence, or stabbing or shooting somebody for their tennis shoes before its end. ;)

    I liked that post, all except how it mentioned the "great Democracy", when in fact we live in a republic...or are supposed to be living in a republic. Moot point, I guess.
  6. martin97

    martin97 Fuel busted Trucker. Founding Member

    Glad to see that posted, I heard about this speech on talk radio last week.
  7. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    You need to move, quick too.
  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Working on it E.L. ;) Working on it.
  9. martin97

    martin97 Fuel busted Trucker. Founding Member

    The quality of life may improve for our generation with a move away from the more urban areas, but what happens to our children? unless we STOP all immigration into this country it will soon reach us all. what will the illegals and green card holders do as our industry leaves the country due to free trade? hmm.. france...
  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Ya man, I have a few friends that just came back from Germany and they are telling me about burning cars and riots every day in France...

    strange stuff.
  11. martin97

    martin97 Fuel busted Trucker. Founding Member

    Americans are murdered nearly every day by illegals.

    In a particularly tragic example of government inattention to illegal aliens who have run amock, one of the snipers who terrorized the Washington DC area for three weeks in October 2002 was a foreign national who had been apprehended the previous year. As a stowaway, he was required by law to be immediately deported back to his home country. Instead, the INS overroad the Border Patrol's designation and released John Lee Malvo upon the unsuspecting American public. Had immigration law been followed by the INS, there would have been no two-man hit team and it is likely that there would have been no devastating series of murders. As columnist Michelle Malkin has observed, the INS releases dangerous alien criminals all the time.
    In another case of justice denied, the murderer of Phoenix high school student Tanee Natividad merely crossed the border into Mexico to escape law enforcement. A local television station was able to track down the murderer in a bar just a few miles across the border without much effort. Max LaMadrid has no reason to hide because the Mexican government actually helps violent criminals escape American justice. According to Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano, action by the Mexican supreme court making it more difficult to extradite criminals has "created an incentive for people to flee into Mexico as a safe harbor." At one time, Mexico would not extradite criminals who might be subject to the death penalty; the Mexican court recently extended this "protection" to any Mexican who might receive a life sentence, thereby giving a free pass to rapists, kidnappers and child molesters. In fact, the investigating reporter found 100 cases of violent criminals from the Phoenix area escaping into Mexico in just the last few years. Meanwhile, the grieving family of 16-year-old Tanee gets no justice — like thousands of others in the southwest.
    • At the left is shown Darlene Squires, the distraught mother of a disabled teenager, one of two girls who were raped on October 24, 2002, by three members of a Salvadoran street gang located in Somerville, Massachusetts. Aged 17 and 14, both victims are deaf and one has cerebral palsy. Mrs. Squires believed that the attacks were a retaliation against her family because her husband confronted the young men after they had harassed the Squires son. Later reports indicated the men arrested for the crime were illegal aliens.Law enforcement officials were concerned about increased violence from the MS-13 gang which was "believed to have originated in part with soldiers and their families who left El Salvador." Local residents estimate the gang has more than 100 members in their community. An update a few months after the Squires crime showed that the gang problem in the community has only gotten worse.
    • The lives of many law enforcement officers have been lost at the criminal hands of violent illegal aliens. One such was David March, a Los Angeles County Sheriff who was killed when he pulled over a car for a routine traffic stop. The driver was a dangerous Mexican drug dealer, Armando Garcia, who had been deported twice and has a long history of violent crime. After shooting Sheriff March twice in the head, Garcia was able to escape and is believed to be in Mexico, where officials refuse to send him back for trial. Garcia is also wanted for two attempted murders. At least one member of Congress, Adam Schiff, has called for President Bush to insist that Mexico extradite violent felons. Furthermore, the Attorneys General for all 50 states wrote to Ashcroft and Secretary of State Colin Powell to demand action on the extradition issue.
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