Congress needa a tinfoil hat too?

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  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

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    FBI chided for OKC bomb investigation


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    The House International Relations investigative subcommittee will release the findings of its two-year review as early as Wednesday, declaring there is no conclusive evidence of a foreign connection to the attack, but that far too many unanswered questions remain.
    The subcommittee's report will conclude there is no doubt McVeigh and Nichols were the main perpetrators, and it discloses for the first time that Nichols confirmed to House investigators he participated in the robbery of an Arkansas gun dealer that provided the proceeds for the attack.
    There have long been questions about that robbery because the FBI concluded McVeigh was in another state at the time it occurred.
    The report also sharply criticizes the FBI for failing to be curious enough to pursue credible information that foreign or U.S. citizens may have had contact with Nichols or McVeigh and could have assisted their plot.
    "We did our best with limited resources, and I think we moved the understanding of this issue forward a couple of notches even though important questions remain unanswered," Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., the subcommittee chairman, said in an interview with The Associated Press.
    Rohrabacher's subcommittee saved its sharpest words for the Justice Department, saying officials there exhibited a mindset of thwarting congressional oversight and did not assist the investigation fully.
    The report rebukes the FBI for not fully pursuing leads suggesting other suspects may have provided support to McVeigh and Nichols before their truck bomb killed 168 people in the main federal building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.
    The report says the inadequacy of the bureau's work was exposed two years ago when some bombing evidence overlooked for 10 years was discovered in a home linked to Nichols that had been searched repeatedly by agents.
    It also notes that McVeigh failed a polygraph when he was asked a question about whether other perpetrators were involved.
    FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said Sunday the FBI had not seen the report but that it remains confident its agents conducted a thorough invetsigation.
    "The Oklahoma City bombing case was the largest case the FBI worked on before 9/11," Kolko said. "Agents at virtually every office, domestically and overseas, covered thousands of leads. Every bit of information was investigated and reviewed."
    The subcommittee report concludes the Justice Department should not have rushed to execute McVeigh in 2001 after he dropped his court appeals, and officials should have made more efforts to interview and question him about evidence suggesting he might have gotten help from other people who remain unpunished.
    Rohrabacher's report cites several leads the subcommittee believes weren't fully investigated, including:
    • Information that McVeigh called a German citizen living at a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma two weeks before the bombing and that two witnesses saw the men together before the bombing.
    • Witness accounts that another man was seen with McVeigh around the time of the bombing. The FBI originally looked for another suspect it named John Doe 2, even providing a sketch, but abruptly dropped that line of inquiry. The subcommittee concludes that decision was a mistake.
    • Findings in AP articles in 2003 and 2004 that indicated the FBI had gathered some evidence suggesting a group of neo-Nazi bank robbers may have been tied to McVeigh. The subcommittee interviewed three of those robbers, and all denied a connection. A fourth member of the gang died and a fifth member could not be located by Congress.

    • Phone record and witness testimony that persons associated with Middle Eastern terrorism in the Philippines may have had contact with Nichols, and that Nichols took a book about explosives to the Philippines. The FBI and Filipino police spent months investigating such a connection, but ruled it out. • Information from a former TV reporter concerning an Iraqi national who was in Oklahoma around the time of the bombing.
     
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  3. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    At certain times all of us are wearing tinfoil hats. Now where did I put that damn thing.............[tinfoil101]
     
  4. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    They were reporting on this on Fox News today. The FBI covered up evidence, ignored some, failed to follow up on some.
    They came to the lone gun man theory and went with it, ignoring anything that didn't fit their theory.
    Many people who said "Hey something doesn't add up here." were ridiculed, called "Conspiracy Theorists", Tin Foil hat Types, mocked and ignored.
    So what happens when your "Conspiracy Theory" proves to be true?
    "Peak Oil" was a CT just a few years ago. Now the naysayers are in the minority and accused of ignoring the evidence.

    I have been saying for years that the feds weren't telling the truth about the explosions (yes, plural) that destroyed the Murrah building. I was close enough to feel the shockwaves. It was several blasts in succession, not one big ANFO blast. They were recorded on seismic sensors 40 miles away in Norman at the metorological center.

    Witnesses saw two men get out of the truck that morning. Witnesses in Kansas described a 3rd man that was with McVeigh and Nichols.
    McVeigh failed a lie detector test when asked if any others were involved.The list goes on, but anyone trying to tell people about it have been ridiculed and ignored.

    But now we find out, after a two year study, hey somethings fishy here. You think??

    The FBI not only did a poor job of investigating but I beleive they are criminally liable for covering up evidence,intimidating witnesses,destroying evidence, and very likely much worse. But, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut. God forbid.
     
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Alex Jones covered this magnificently, including eyewitness reports and even news footage from the day of the bombing. It really is strange how the media changed their reports soon after the tragedy, but even more strange that the reports of additional bombs being found just evaporated into thin air. Additionally, one might check out the explosions themselves, and the fact that the blasts came from inside the building and debris was scattered away, not toward the building, as a fertilizer truck bomb theory would suggest...not to mention the structural damage that is impossible to recreate with a fertilizer bomb.

    But I digress.
     

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