Congress Votes Themselves a Raise!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Seacowboys, Dec 19, 2008.


  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

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    <table class="contentpaneopen"> <tbody><tr> <td class="contentheading" width="100%"> With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table class="contentpaneopen"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" valign="top" width="70%" align="left"> By Jordy Yager </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="createdate" valign="top"> Posted: 12/17/08 05:41 PM [ET] </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" valign="top"> A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.
    Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.

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    “As lawmakers make a big show of forcing auto executives to accept just $1 a year in salary, they are quietly raiding the vault for their own personal gain,” said Daniel O’Connell, chairman of The Senior Citizens League (TSCL), a non-partisan group. “This money would be much better spent helping the millions of seniors who are living below the poverty line and struggling to keep their heat on this winter.” However, at 2.8 percent, the automatic raise that lawmakers receive is only half as large as the 2009 cost of living adjustment of Social Security recipients.
    Still, Steve Ellis, vice president of the budget watchdog Taxpayers for Common Sense, said Congress should have taken the rare step of freezing its pay, as lawmakers did in 2000.
    “Look at the way the economy is and how most people aren’t counting on a holiday bonus or a pay raise — they’re just happy to have gainful employment,” said Ellis. “But you have the lawmakers who are set up and ready to get their next installment of a pay raise and go happily along their way.”
    Member raises are often characterized as examples of wasteful spending, especially when many constituents and businesses in members’ districts are in financial despair.
    Rep. Harry Mitchell, a first-term Democrat from Arizona, sponsored legislation earlier this year that would have prevented the automatic pay adjustments from kicking in for members next year. But the bill, which attracted 34 cosponsors, failed to make it out of committee.
    “They don’t even go through the front door. They have it set up so that it’s wired so that you actually have to undo the pay raise rather than vote for a pay raise,” Ellis said.
    Freezing congressional salaries is hardly a new idea on Capitol Hill.
    Lawmakers have floated similar proposals in every year dating back to 1995, and long before that. Though the concept of forgoing a raise has attracted some support from more senior members, it is most popular with freshman lawmakers, who are often most vulnerable.
    In 2006, after the Republican-led Senate rejected an increase to the minimum wage, Democrats, who had just come to power in the House with a slew of freshmen, vowed to block their own pay raise until the wage increase was passed. The minimum wage was eventually increased and lawmakers received their automatic pay hike.
    In the beginning days of 1789, Congress was paid only $6 a day, which would be about $75 daily by modern standards. But by 1965 members were receiving $30,000 a year, which is the modern equivalent of about $195,000.
    Currently the average lawmaker makes $169,300 a year, with leadership making slightly more. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) makes $217,400, while the minority and majority leaders in the House and Senate make $188,100.
    Ellis said that while freezing the pay increase would be a step in the right direction, it would be better to have it set up so that members would have to take action, and vote, for a pay raise and deal with the consequences, rather than get one automatically.
    “It is probably never going to be politically popular to raise Congress’s salary,” he said. “I don’t think you’re going to find taxpayers saying, ‘Yeah I think I should pay my congressman more’.”
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  2. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Not including tips, payoffs, and exhtortion
    Is there no shame???
     
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Politician? Shame? Mutually exclusive. Sad.
     
  4. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    I think it's time I ran for some office!
    Any office!

    Bill
     
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I have carefully thought this over; my initial reaction was anger. After mulling it over all night, I am totally pissed off. I want to get the tally on everyone that voted for this and make damned sure they are not re-elected.
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    No vote needed, it is automatic. To reject it requires a vote to change the law that dates back a while. (Dunno [dunno] how long ago it was enacted.)
     
  7. hacon1

    hacon1 Monkey+++

    They don't have to vote for it because it is set up, that they automaticly, get the raise unless they vote to repeal this "act".

    I am an elected official in my town. We voted to cut all elected official's pay down to $500/year. Then we found out that due to regulations in the Ohio Revised Code, those cuts won't take effect until everyone's next term. After finding this out, we passed the measure any way and are now going to donate the money back to the town twice/year, until everyone is either relected or is replaced, allowing our cuts to take affect.

    How sad is it when you have state rules that tell you that you can't cut your own pay?

    Some similar measures, up the ladder, that I have seen lately are:
    The Kentucky governor and 6 staff members will be taking 10% pay cuts next year and the Tennessee governor will not be drawing his pay at all next year.

    Make sure that you call in "at-a-boy's" to those guys and make sure you call screaming at the rest of the slugs for their greed and stupidity!

    Government was not meant to be a full time job with all the little extras.....it has been turned into that by the greedy and corrupt...make sure you remind them of this!
     
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