Cost effective cistern - water storage

Discussion in 'Off Grid Living' started by jblaise, Apr 24, 2014.


  1. jblaise

    jblaise Monkey

    Cost effective - read cheap or even free? I plan to draw water from a well with a 110v pump and store it in some sort of cistern. I will then use a 12v pressure demand pump to serve the house.
    In an ideal world I would mount a 300 - 500 gallon container on a trailer and transport the water in until I get the well down. Then either bury the container or build a structure over it. No current intention of using it during the excessively cold months. So far my best bet is a number of 50 gal plastic drums (which I have) but I would prefer a single container. I have seen the ?300? gallon cube shaped chemical containers with integrated pallets but all have been used to carry some pretty scary stuff!
    Any ideas??
     
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

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  3. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    The Caged Food Grade square Tanks in Ghrit's Posts URL is what I am familiar with. In fact I have one in my backyard, at the moment. The Cannery, here, gets Sorbitol ( dextrose solution) in a Caviar Processing procedure, in these tanks. They are OneTime Disposable Tanks of roughly 350USG. The Cannery has to PAY to get rid of these, so it is very nice for the local Residents, to be able to cart off the empty tanks, rather than having to PAY, to dispose of them. The local use the for Potable Water Systems. Since it gets very Cold in Alaska in the Winters, we like to build the Tanks into the upper floor or attic of the Cabins, so they are inside the insulated portion of the cabin, and freezing isn't a problem. It also makes Gravity Water Systems that require no power, an easy way to have running water. We use insulated Totes for our Collection and outside Water Storage, of Rain Water, off our Roof. Then we use a 25GPM AC Pump to pump water from the Collection, and Storage Totes, up to the inside Tank, when it gets low. There are pictures of our systems, in the OffGrid Forum, as well as the Tanks.... Just do a search, on my posts...
     
  4. jblaise

    jblaise Monkey

    Thanks guys. "Caged water tanks" was what I needed. Found some on craigs list that aren't free, but not an arm and a leg either. Or maybe I can get my buddy in Eagle River to get a few from BTPost and bring them down with him when he flies down for some fishing this summer! ;)
     
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    If you get them off CL, make sure you clean thoroly and disinfect them. There's something to be said for "trusted sources."
     
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  6. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    Check out the local farm supply stores like Tractor Supply, Rural King, Orscheln, Fleet and Farm, etc. They have polyethylene tanks up to about 2500 gallons for water and farm chemicals. They will have a nice 150-300 gallon tank designed just to fit a pickup truck bed. Even the big tanks are designed for strapping down to truck or semi trailer to transport water. Here are some prices from a TSC near me in the Midwest:
    210 gal pickup tank $180
    325 gal pickup tank $250
    425 gal pickup tank $300
    550 gal black poly storage tank $500
    550 gal white poly storage tank $380
    1550 gal white poly storage tank $650
    1500 gal black poly storage tank $1000
    2500 gal black poly storage tank $1400

    Not cheap but you know what's NOT been in a brand new tank.

    AT
     
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  7. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    They will not fit in his Back Pocket.... HOWEVER, if your friend has a SkyVan, and flies in to our "Road that airplanes land on" I can fix him, and you, up.......
     
  8. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    BE CAREFUL WITH UNKNOWN CAGED TANKS SOME MAY HAVE BEEN USED TO HOLD DE-ICING FLUID...
    if you are not sure what they held/ labels have been removed it might be safer to pass until you can be sure...
     
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  9. er1c

    er1c Monkey

    Interestingly I use the caged containers and they are all second hand but were used for food grade items.. i was alarmed when my second arrived and I happened to see a flammable HAZCHEM label on it... I panicked as we had used the water from the previous.

    However it turns out they are used for food syrups which are perfectly safe however do require a flammable label due to the sugar content.
     
  10. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    [​IMG]
    This majestic cistern was recently discovered beneath one of the lawns at Buffalo Bayou Park in Houston
     
  11. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Culvert for rainwater collection. Would this work?
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Sure. Fugly, but if it holds water ---
     
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  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+

    Air craft deicing uses propylene glycol, which is used in food processing.
     
  14. svjoe

    svjoe Angry Monkey


    Don't know if I would trust it.........rust happens
     
  15. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    That is why you use Galvanized Steel.....
     
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  16. azrancher

    azrancher Monkey +++

    It's why you buy new poly tanks, at about $.050/gallon it's probably cheaper than those caged tanks (IBC). I have 2 new 5,000 gallon tanks that I need to bury, one new 3,000 gallon tank I need to put next to the the 3,000 gallon tank that got scorched in the fire, but is still working, and the 2 5,000 gallon tanks that have holes burned in them from the fire, plan to buy plastic panels and weld them back so they hold water.

    Rancher
     
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  17. svjoe

    svjoe Angry Monkey


    Understood, but still just don't like the idea of using metal like that. Crawled inside some pretty nasty metal containers in my time.
     
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  18. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    The way I figure it, every single drop of stored water is going to get refiltered any way no matter what it's been stored in.
    I have 2 of the caged units had some kind of syrup I washed out with alcohol and cleaned right up , I also have old water heater tanks repaired and in service .
    I installed a swamp cooler float valves on the caged tanks continually receiving city water, and water flows through feeding the chickens . I have other cistern tanks also, altogether over 2000 gallons.
    That's not really a lot of water in the grand scope of things but it's a start.
    Years ago On the desert we built a shed and put our water storage in a loft.
    I got the water up there by having a tank in the truck I could fill at another location, and when I got home I could pressurize the tank in the truck with a little 12 volt air compressor, and hook a hose from the truck tank to any hose fitting on the house and sent the water strait up to the upper tanks.
    I knew when the were full through a over flow/vent hose, out side the loft .
     
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  19. tomgrace

    tomgrace Monkey

    For the purpose of water storage, good quality tanks are the best as they have a long life and hygienic also. Earlier in my industry, I was using simple plastic tanks. But their life is short, so I changed all the tanks and fixed stainless steel tanks. These tanks are shining and adding seven stars to my industry. It requires washing only once in a fifteen days.
     
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  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    We used those stainless steel tanks on the ranch in NM. windmill to tank and overflow to stock tank

    We never cleaned the stainless steel tanks. just had goldfish and water weeds in the tank. it also doubled as a bath and a swimming pool
     
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