Second Amendment CT Confiscation Letters

Discussion in 'Bill of Rights' started by Yard Dart, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Connecticut sends out the first confiscation letters –

    Looks like this pot is getting ready to boil over!!!!!
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  2. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    EDITORIAL: Connecticut revolts against gun controls that could criminalize 300,000 - Washington Times
  3. limpingbear

    limpingbear future cancer survivor....

    I honestly wonder if some people would resort to armed resistance to confiscation. I have a hard time getting a mental image of people actually shooting over this. I wonder how many police officers will refuse to comply with orders.
  4. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    That really is the question..... what percentage of folks will go guns blazing and how many LEO's will not perform their orders. The other question is how many civi and LEO bodies will stack up before the state flinches? And a final question.... what will the take away be nationally, because if the state wins... the rest of the nation could be in the same situation of to many sheep/cowards, that the few will not make a dent and lose. I vote for the "fighter behind every blade of grass" crew......!!!!!! United we stand and divided we fall.
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  5. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    "If we do NOT hang together, We will Certainly Hang, Separately."
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  6. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Yes, this is going to get interesting. All gun owners need to keep an eye on what's going on there.
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  7. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Someone needs to remind the jackboots that they took an oath to uphold the constitution and they do not have to obey an illegal (unconstitutional) order.
  8. natshare

    natshare Monkey+++

    I'm just wondering, if folks decline to turn in their firearms, will the state then send out that bull dyke in the photo to confiscate them? She'd sure scare the hell out of most people!!
  9. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Botched registration leads to confiscation in Connecticut
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  10. 10brokenpromises

    10brokenpromises Monkey++

    Something's telling me to grab a copy of the letter and post it here for posterity...not that anything ever disappears on the Internet...
  11. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    Good point. I wonder how many people have downloaded a local copy (assuming they didn't get one in the mail).
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I was unable to find that "letter" on the CT State cop website. However, the provisions in the letter are on the site. If you are staying silent about what you have, feel free to do so, but if something else triggers them and they find the contraband, the hammer falls.

    despp: Firearms and Permit Related Forms and Information

    Here's what the website says about it all in the FAQs:
    Will law enforcement be going door to door to confiscate unregistered assault weapons or undeclared magazines?

    · No, but just like any other item that is unlawful (i.e. contraband) to possess, if an individual is found to be in possession of an unregistered assault weapon or undeclared magazine, they are subject to arrest and prosecution.

    Uv cuss, they might change their minds on short notice if any at all.
  13. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    This really bothers me because I get a bad feeling that someone is going to end up dead. Nothing against the police but I see them bursting into someones home, shooting the dog, maybe a child. I think some officers are going to go gunho on this. A tip that so & so has a gun, next thing you know doors are being busted in and bam! It scares me because one bad egg and things could escalate quickly.
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  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    There is a "School of Thought" on this issue, and a HISTORY. Back in the Day, when SWAT was first introduced to Civilian Police, Many of the "Cowboy" type Officers went for the Training, as a way to boost their Egos, and Manhood. Early Training Officers were usually former SpecOps People, just reTired, and just PLAIN TIRED, (VietNam) and most of the training was in teaching these Cowboys, that there is a LOT more to Shooting than Pulling the Trigger. These Vets had seen WAR, and never wanted to see it AGAIN. The mantra was "One Shot, One Kill" ... If you had to use Deadly force, you made the One Shot, and that ended the engagement. Some of the Cowboys, actually learned from these older Vets, Small Unit Tactics, and Marksmanship. Some didn't, but they were largely weeded out, because Unit Commanders were usually ExMIL Officers who had Commanded, Squads, and Platoons, in the field, using the Doctrines, of that War. Those were adapted to fit, usually, the Urban situation, of that time. One High Site Sniper, a Entrance Team, of three or four, with a Big Hammer, for Breaching Doors, and SemiAuto Version of the subMachine Guns of the Day. The Unit Commander was Last in line of the Entrance Team, and they were rarely called out, unless it was a MAJOR, and I mean MAJOR Issue. Things didn't change a whole lot, until the Florida FBI Fiasco, and the California AK47 Bank Fiasco. The Chiefs felt their people were "Out Gunned" by the Bad Guys, and the SWAT Response was NEVER going to be fast enough, unless many of the Street Cops were SWAT TRAINED, AND EQUIPPED so that a Team could be formed, from those who were closest to the Incident, to contain the Perps, until the BIG Boys ARRIVED.

    So now the Tactics changed, but the Weapons did NOT. Only Sergeants had Shotguns, No one had Rifles, simply because the Chiefs didn't trust the Street Cops with anything bigger than their Issue Sidearm, which MOST could barely quality with. Then the .GOV, under Clinton had a TON of old M16's they needed to dump, so they could outfit the Troops with M4s. So they gave every Podunk Cop Shop, and County Sheriff, a load of Full Auto M16s, to pass out to the Troops. Most of these "Troops' had never handled a Select Fire Weapon, and there were a whole passel of Training Incidents, and then most were converted to SemiAuto, so that the locals could actually work with the Weapons, Safely, and IF they had a SWAT Team in that Cop Shop, they got the SelectFire Weapons. Lots of Book Training went on, but still little actual Weapons Training, or Field Work, and again most Cops could barely Quality with these new Weapons. The First Vests showed up about this same time. SWAT got the Good Stuff, and the Street Cops got what was left over, or bought their own.

    Then came the Mideast Wars, and those were mostly Urban Fighting, once the Tanks Battles were ended. Small Unit Urban Tactics became the NORM, instead of the Platoon taking Ground outside the cities. We trained a whole Generation, in Small Unit Urban Tactics, unfortunately many never got to the Battles, because of the IED Infestation of the Routes in and out, took many of our finest. Again Tactics changed, and these issues were slowly dealt with, by UpArmoring the Humvi's, and Transports. When these Troops were mustered out, they went back to their Jobs as Cops, or they were Hired to replace many of the Vietnam Era Vets who were retiring. They had a whole different theory of how Police should do the Enforcement Job. They came with a lot of .MIL Tactics, that made Total Sense in WAR, but not so much Sense, in Law Enforcement. This is when the "Everybody goes Home, SAFE, at the End of Shift, no matter What" mentality started to be seen, and the "LEO" Badge became the Label, instead of the "Police", Cop, Pig or Deputy". This is when the "WAR on Drugs" really ramped up and No Knock, Warrants became the NORM rather than the Exception. We have a WHOLE CLASS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, trained, and schooled to be very effective in an Urban WAR Senerio, now operating in the Urban Law Enforcement Senerio, and bringing along with them, their "Everybody goes Home, SAFE, at the End of Shift, no matter What" Mantra from their WAR Days. They rode into Battle in the Armored Transport, and now they expect to do the SAME with their Newly acquired spiffy New Wheeled Tanks. These are spruced up Old .MIL that .GOV needs to DUMP, so the .MIL can get NEW Ones that actually Protect the Troops, from IEDs. No one is using IEDs in the USA.... YET.... and It isn't the SpecOPs Professional Soldiers that are leading the way in LEO Training, these days. Most of them, when they leave .MIL do one of two things. One, they go and HIDE in Plain Sight, as they NEVER want to "Go to WAR" AGAIN. OR Two, they Go into Private Contracting, (Mercenaries) "Have Gun, will Travel" Types that are just looking for that next Combat Thrill. Some do go to LEO School, but many get weeded out, because Cop Schools now have Psyc Evals that are getting tougher by the hour, due to Law Suits, and Outrageous Conduct, and Constitutional Violations.

    So this is where we are today. MANY of our Monkey LEOs have years in the field... They ALL do good Work, and abhor the Cowboys in their Midst. Some are Training Officers, and are doing the weeding process, to find the Good Ones, and Train them Up right, and dump the Bad ones that will mess up and give the profession a BAD Name. And NOW we come to Connecticut.... and Who is going to Obey, and who is going to Cowboy, and who is going to Keep the "Oath Of Office" that they SWORE to, MANY TIMES OVER.... Only the Good Lord and time will tell those answers....... Just waiting, and watching, from behind 250 miles of Alaska Wilderness....
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  15. TXKajun

    TXKajun Monkey+++

    BT, you just gave the greatest answer to [​IMG]
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  16. Mike

    Mike Ol' Army Sergeant Monkey

    MM, I try to let them know that fairly often. For the most part, they aren't listening.
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  17. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

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  18. Mike

    Mike Ol' Army Sergeant Monkey

    Yup, indeed
  19. shamrock75

    shamrock75 Hangin in monkey

    Coumo's waiting to send ours out after the November elections here in New York.It won't be pretty.
  20. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Yeah I know. That's why plan B needs to be ready to go into effect.
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