Denmark and Islamic Immigrants

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gravelgurdy, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. gravelgurdy

    gravelgurdy Monkey+++

    This was sent to me in an email from a close friend

    Denmark, a must read!!!

    SALUTE to Denmark .. This could very well happen here on our Continent....

    Susan MacAllen is a contributing editor for (
    Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom By Susan

    In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark. But in 1978 - even in
    Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants.

    The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went
    out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its
    new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the
    conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to
    struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state
    as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.

    The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking,
    progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark
    boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior
    educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

    Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it
    offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous
    welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in
    transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a
    world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it
    have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in
    a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the
    streets -all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come
    back to bite?

    By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and
    its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years
    of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the
    Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the
    decadence of Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so
    welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam
    as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal
    liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other
    ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

    An article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they
    forecasted, accurately, that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark
    would explode. In the article they reported: 'Muslim immigrants
    constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40
    percent of the welfare spending.' 'Muslims are only 4 percent of
    Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's
    convicted rapists, an especially
    combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are
    non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other

    'Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less
    to mix with the indigenous population.
    A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants
    would readily marry a Dane.'

    'Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male
    cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes
    on pain of death - are one problem.

    'Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law
    once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - not-that-remote
    prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every
    third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.'

    It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel
    that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and
    laws. An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries
    and Canada: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim
    faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in
    fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by
    Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens
    worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to
    Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend
    Elsa - who, as a teenager, had dreaded crossing the street to the
    bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I
    wonder what she would say today.

    In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70
    years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal
    unfettered immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration
    policies in Europe. (Its effort to protect itself has been met with
    accusations of 'racism' by liberal media across Europe - even as other
    governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of
    too-lax immigration.)

    If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language
    classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a
    Danish language test..

    You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for

    You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you
    wish to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of
    age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and
    family to Denmark with you.

    You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen. Although
    your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language
    schools in Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to
    Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

    In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen,
    spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish
    welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare
    committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries
    were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge
    welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words,
    the welfare system, as it existed, was being exploited by immigrants
    to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. 'We are simply
    forced to adopt a new policy on immigration'.

    'The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how
    unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now,' he

    A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of
    Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about
    the new policy toward immigration, 'The number of foreigners coming to
    the country makes a difference,' Hvilshoj says, 'There is an inverse
    correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the
    foreigners that come.' And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate
    a willingness to blend in, 'In my view, Denmark should be a country
    with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however,
    are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal
    rights, and freedom of speech.'

    Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her
    resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu
    Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a
    Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the
    family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj
    dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of
    retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is
    done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.

    The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her
    husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she
    and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other
    ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country
    where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

    Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened.
    Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine
    whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking
    and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war
    with supporters of Sharia law.

    And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and
    demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to
    live on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of
    Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily,
    dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our
    traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our
    language, appreciate our history, we would do well to look to Denmark,
    and say a prayer for her future and
    for our own.

    If you agree with this article, then please pass it on.

    Islam is no different to CANCER, they are working their way into every
    culture like a disease & if we don’t do something NOW (as described
    above) then all other cultures will be in seroius trouble.
    WW3 will be islam against the rest of the world
  2. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Support Geert Wilders! his fight against Islamization is Epic!
  3. gravelgurdy

    gravelgurdy Monkey+++

    ;). More info please. :D
  4. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Seems like Holland and Denmark are facing the same or similar issues. As are France and England that we know about from news that trickles in from across the pond. I am personally not anti-muslim, but sure am anti-islamicist, if you take the distinction.

    We are going to have the same problem, if not already. The porous southern border is a more immediate concern, methinks.
  6. gravelgurdy

    gravelgurdy Monkey+++

    WWIII will be a terrible blood bath. I believe it will be mostly religious in nature. Ethnic to a lessor amount. Christianity against Islam. The only good thing about it maybe would be Hispanics lean more towards Christainity than Islam.(Spain and remember the Moors). Of course the Hispanic drug gangs are godless and we might find ourselves at war on two major fronts.[stirpot]
  7. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I have a couple forum buddies in Australia - they report mucho problems with the wannabe jihadies too. They come to conquer and subdue, NOT to assimilate.

    Sounds like our Southwestern problems too......
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