So what the "heck" do monkeys expect to see if the .gov defaults and what do we do about it???? Become entirely self sufficient by next spring???I'm not even sure if that's entirely possible by anytime...With so many ants in this farm pulling for their own survival, surely (?) complete and utter collapse is not really possible; ?Hear me out: the real economy is built on "human need and human greed". If we all have a bad winter and municipalities default; so the utilities workers just don't come into work anymore and utilities are shutoff.I can see community centers or homes(with a wood stove or two opening to neighbors with a 1 piece of firewood (or 1 can of peas; entry fee to a neighborhood potluck. firewood would be brought in even a few pieces at a time by the "new wealthy". Coal picked up along the rail line heading into the power plant or an entire carload siezed...the.22 or 12ga.could become a unit of exchange. people will find workarounds. barging/rafting down the mississippi,to warmer latitutudes would be a "break out" business. or running supplies back up the rivers, An economy is unavoidable.(Perhaps a "fur trade" era economy ). What do you guys see , otherwise its just a chaotic mess with strong taking advantage of weak.".bada-bing bada-7.62 boom"; brigands and rapist will abso "f"-in lutely not last long.