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Designed Obsolete

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Seacowboys, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I was talking to my brother in law yesterday. He used to work in an ice-house. He was telling me that the cubes now have holes in them to create more surface and less mass and have air infused into them to make the cube lighter and melt quicker. I can remember when a chest of ice was good for a long weekend of campfire cooking, kids, beer and sodas, snacks but not any more. You are going to have to replenish the ice daily.
    This is the way our economy functions; consumer based economy lives, not for profit but for turn-over. I started this tread to ask for examples of useless stuff that is designed to produce nothing but make-busy wages. Remember that almost everything other than food, clothing, and shelter and the means of procuring them, are extraneous.
    I'll start with:
    Bottled water
    disposable diapers
    disposable anything
    artificially flavored water
    lite salt?
    Mad Moms Against Drunk Drivers
    Bicycle helmets
    Swat Teams
    Digital television
  2. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    This reminded me of one of my pet peeves. I absolutely hate paper towels. I think they are indicative of our use it,throw it away,buy another culture. The wife and I argue about them every time she goes shopping.

    I grew up with a kitchen towel, usualy hanging on the handle of the oven, that was used to wipe counters, dry hands etc. When it got dirty you threw it in the laundry and got another.

    AND, she has to have the "pretty" ones! The ones that cost twice as much as the plain white cheapies.:rolleyes:
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Lighters of the Bic flavor. (Burned my leg a couple times after over filling a Zippo, but you didn't throw them away.)
    Plastic or paper milk jugs. What's wrong with glass? Can also be recyled. Likewise pop bottles.
  4. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    Paper plates
    Styrofoam cups/plates (except for their fire pit entertainment value)
    Pull-ups (disposable diapers where the kids do all the work)
    Lunchables (we call them Laughables)
    Convenience food/Novelty candy packaging is a joke - what a waste of resources!

    Plastic grocery bags; I don't even understand why they're allowed.
  5. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Most consumer electronics. Already obsolete when it hits the market - the company already has it's replacement on the way. Bigger, smaller physically, more powerful, faster, more bells&whistles, more bugs........

    Then you need newer, faster, better software, or a newer music/video/game format.

    The hardware and software companies feed each other. Can't get one without the other. Imagine how much sheer plastic/electronic trash is 'out there'......? [dunno]
  6. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    My new pet peeve is toilet paper. So indicative of our throw away culture. That's why I am getting a bidet in my next house. Imagine....never having "tacky butt", just a clean sphincter right after business is completed. Who needs TP when you have that? not me. Just soap it up and walla, head out to shake your tail feather! Also would work wonders on the freshen up of the twiggs and berrys.
  7. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    guess everybody needs a hobby...
  8. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

  9. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The list of items that are engineered with planned obsolescence would be like the "Song that never ends". Items that don't have planned obsolescence would be a very short list.

    Now matter how durable the exterior shell of an item is built something within is engineered to fail, usually right about the time the warranty is up.

    "Cash for clunkers" is a prime example of helping consumerism along.

    If .gov really wanted to do something to help the environment, reduce the amount of energy consumed by manufacturing and reduce the amount of crap we throw into landfills, they might consider giving incentives to corporations that actually build something that last more than a couple of years. Yeah, like that will ever happen.
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Seems like all the new, improved TP is getting closer and closer to rolled sand paper. Not at all pleasant on grapevine hemmies. I'm liking the bidet idea. A friend has one, and reports he's never leaving home again. Setting the mixer valve is the trick to avoid frozen parts and pieces, or scalding same. :oops:
  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Agree with you about MADD. The .08 limit is BS and people should only be arrested for DUI when they are F'ed up.

    For the list:
    Motorcycle helmet laws
    Seatbelt laws

    Glocks??? Nothing wrong with them. Have been using them since the early 90's with no problems.
  12. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    "Digital Television" - AMEN! Totally useless. Any bad weather, the signal pixelizes, freezes the picture and then goes dead. Imagine in an Emergency - don't expect to hear the annoying alert - the tube will be offline. I got about four times more 'channels'..... of total garbage. I go days now without turning the danged thing on.And then, it's mainly just for the weather reports.
  13. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    'Single servings' of anything. Tyler Durden does not approve.

  14. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Are you kidding? When my Satellite and Internet goes down, that's my sign that I need to get the family in the basement!! It's my cheap tornado siren.
  15. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    I just remembered one of my biggest "you've got to be kidding me" finds:
    Bagged air (for shipping).
  16. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I still have to have one hanging from the oven door, I go nuts if it's not there.
  17. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    My dish towel is on the counter by the coffee pot. Right next to the dish rag.

  18. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Yep, I use the old "dish towel", and even use the red mechanic's rags, washing them when they are soiled (BUT.... NEVER wash them with your 'whites'..... [ROFL]). I do use paper towels, but I can make two rolls last a couple months.

    TP - now THAT is a necessity of life! I'll go to a rag when the paper stuff simply is NOT available. :rolleyes:
  19. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    One point to make: there is little beyond food, clothing, and shelter that is a necessity. We like our conveniences but my point is that most of these only go to providing "make busy" employment to keep the worker ants moving. I like to think, all men created equal aside, that there is some compelling reason why we have to give money to people for other than these essentials? If there is, I have missed it. What is wrong with distributing Tyvek suits (paper), energy bars, and Circus tent dormitory to the ones that can't work, pay taxes, and buy their own disposable diapers, bottled water, and Starbucks coffee? Is there something wrong with wanting someone else to pay for anything other than the essentials?
  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Actually Clyde's tonque in cheek post does have merit. Having lived and traveled in the Middle East I have found myself in the predicament of having to go "native" once or twice.
    They use no paper or rags, only water. A bedouin will tke one handful of water and take care of business.
    Let me see how to put this, poo doesn't stick to water. It is actually a very effective way to clean up.

    But I don't see it catching on around here!!!:D That's hard core survivalism!!!

    BTW, my wife hates it that I have a stack of old phone books in the garage. She always wants me to toss them out. I tell her that the day may come when she will be mighty glad to have them. That's my emergency TP stash.
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