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Dick Cheney Signs On In DC Case

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Quigley_Sharps, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Dick Cheney and a majority from both the House and Senate signed an Amicus Curiae Brief on behalf of Gunowners.

    [FONT=Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]quote:[/FONT] <HR>Statement From Wayne LaPierre And Chris W. Cox On Vice President Dick Cheney Signing Congressional Amicus Curiae Brief In D.C. Case​

    Friday, February 08, 2008​

    On behalf of four million NRA members and 80 million American gun owners, we would like to thank Vice President Dick Cheney for his strong support of the individual rights view of the Second Amendment. Today, in his capacity as President of the United States Senate, Vice President Cheney signed on to the congressional amicus curiae brief affirming the individual rights view of the Second Amendment. As Americans, we are grateful and fortunate to have a friend of freedom in the Vice President.​

    Led by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), bi-partisan majorities of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives - in fact, the largest number of co-signers of a congressional amicus brief in American history - filed a strong brief in support of the individual rights view. 55 members of the Senate and 250 members of the House co-signed this brief along with the Vice President of the United States. This landmark brief argues that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual, fundamental right to Keep and Bear Arms; that any infringement on this right should be subject to the highest level of constitutional scrutiny; that D.C.'s categorical ban on handguns and self-defense in the home is unreasonable and unconstitutional under any level of review; and therefore, that the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit's opinion in this case should be upheld.​

    We would also like to thank the other parties who are filing briefs in support of freedom, including other pro-Second Amendment individuals and organizations, as well as an overwhelming majority of state attorneys general. ​

    The NRA stated in its brief filed yesterday that "In adopting the Second Amendment, the Framers guaranteed an individual right to keep and bear arms for private purposes, not a collective right to keep and bear arms only in connection with state militia service." We remain hopeful that justice, freedom and the will of our founding fathers will prevail at our nation's High Court.​


    By the way, here's the list, you have to add the "D" or "R".​

    [FONT=Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]quote:[/FONT] <HR>Vice President Richard B. Cheney in his capacity as President of the Senate ​

    Alabama Kentucky ​

    Sen. Jeff Sessions Sen. Jim Bunning Oregon Sen. Gordon Smith ​

    Sen. Richard Shelby Sen. Mitch McConnell Rep. Greg Walden (OR-2) ​

    Rep. Jo Bonner (AL-1) Rep. Ed Whitfield (KY-1) Rep. Peter DeFazio (OR-4) ​

    Rep. Terry Everett (AL-2) Rep. Ron Lewis (KY-2) ​

    Rep. Mike Rogers (AL-3) Rep. Geoff Davis (KY-4) Pennsylvania ​

    Rep. Robert Aderholt (AL-4) Rep. Hal Rogers (KY-5) Sen. Bob Casey ​

    Rep. Bud Cramer (AL-5) Rep. Ben Chandler (KY-6) Sen. Arlen Specter ​

    Rep. Spencer Bachus (AL-6) Rep. Phil English (PA-3) ​

    Rep. Artur Davis (AL-7) Louisiana Rep. Jason Altmire (PA-4) ​

    Sen. David Vitter Rep. John Peterson (PA-5) ​

    Alaska Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA-3) Rep. Jim Gerlach (PA-6) ​

    Sen. Lisa Murkowski Rep. Jim McCrery (LA-4) Rep. Bill Shuster (PA-9) ​

    Sen. Ted Stevens Rep. Rodney Alexander (LA-5) Rep. Chris Carney (PA-10) ​

    Rep. Don Young (AK-AL) Rep. Richard Baker (LA-6) Rep. Paul Kanjorski (PA-11) ​

    Rep. Charles Boustany (LA-7) Rep. John Murtha (PA-12) ​

    Arizona Rep. Charlie Dent (PA-15) ​

    Sen. Jon Kyl Maine Rep. Joe Pitts (PA-16) ​

    Sen. John McCain Sen. Susan Collins Rep. Tim Holden (PA-17) ​

    Rep. Rick Renzi (AZ-1) Sen. Olympia Snowe Rep. Tim Murphy (PA-18) ​

    Rep. Trent Franks (AZ-2) Rep. Mike Michaud (ME-2) Rep. Todd Platts (PA-19) ​

    Rep. John Shadegg (AZ-3) ​

    Rep. Harry Mitchell (AZ-5) Maryland South Carolina ​

    Rep. Jeff Flake (AZ-6) Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (MD-6) Sen. Jim DeMint ​

    Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8) Sen. Lindsey Graham ​

    Michigan Rep. Henry Brown (SC-1) ​

    Arkansas Rep. Bart Stupak (MI-1) Rep. Joe Wilson (SC-2) ​

    Sen. Blanche Lincoln Rep. Pete Hoekstra (MI-2) Rep. Gresham Barrett (SC-3) ​

    Rep. Marion Berry (AR-1) Rep. Dave Camp (MI-4) Rep. Bob Inglis (SC-4) ​

    Rep. John Boozman (AR-3) Rep. Fred Upton (MI-6) ​

    Rep. Mike Ross (AR-4) Rep. Tim Walberg (MI-7) South Dakota ​

    Rep. Mike Rogers (MI-8) Sen. Tim Johnson ​

    California Rep. Joe Knollenberg (MI-9) Sen. John Thune ​

    Rep. Wally Herger (CA-2) Rep. Candice Miller (MI-10) Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD-AL) ​

    Rep. Dan Lungren (CA-3) Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (MI-11) ​

    Rep. John Doolittle (CA-4) Rep. John Dingell (MI-15) Tennessee ​

    Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA-18) Sen. Lamar Alexander ​

    Rep. George Radanovich (CA-19) Minnesota Sen. Bob Corker ​

    Rep. Devin Nunes (CA-21) Sen. Norm Coleman Rep. David Davis (TN-1) ​

    Rep. Kevin McCarthy (CA-22) Rep. Tim Walz (MN-1) Rep. Jimmy Duncan (TN-2) ​

    Rep. Elton Gallegly (CA-24) Rep. John Kline (MN-2) Rep. Zach Wamp (TN-3) ​

    Rep. Buck McKeon (CA-25) Rep. Michele Bachmann (MN-6) Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN-4) ​

    Rep. David Dreier (CA-26) Rep. Collin Peterson (MN-7) Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-5) ​

    Rep. Ed Royce (CA-40) Rep. Jim Oberstar (MN-8) Rep. Bart Gordon (TN-6) ​

    Rep. Jerry Lewis (CA-41) Rep. Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) ​

    Rep. Gary Miller (CA-42) Mississippi Rep. John Tanner (TN-8) ​

    Rep. Joe Baca (CA-43) Sen. Thad Cochran Rep. Stephen Cohen (TN-9) ​

    Rep. Ken Calvert (CA-44) Sen. Roger Wicker ​

    Rep. Mary Bono Mack (CA-45) Rep. Chip Pickering (MS-3) Texas ​

    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (CA-46) Rep. Gene Taylor (MS-4) Sen. John Cornyn ​

    Rep. John Campbell (CA-48) Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison ​

    Rep. Darrell Issa (CA-49) Missouri Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-1) ​

    Rep. Brian Bilbray (CA-50) Sen. Kit Bond Rep. Ted Poe (TX-2) ​

    Rep. Duncan Hunter (CA-52) Rep. Todd Akin (MO-2) Rep. Sam Johnson (TX-3) ​

    Rep. Sam Graves (MO-6) Rep. Ralph Hall (TX-4) ​

    Colorado Rep. Roy Blunt (MO-7) Rep. Jeb Hensarling (TX-5) ​

    Sen. Wayne Allard Rep. Jo Ann Emerson (MO-8) Rep. Joe Barton (TX-6) ​

    Sen. Ken Salazar Rep. Kenny Hulshof (MO-9) Rep. John Culberson (TX-7) ​

    Rep. John Salazar (CO-3) Rep. Kevin Brady (TX-8) ​

    Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (CO-4) Montana Rep. Mike McCaul (TX-10) ​

    Rep. Doug Lamborn (CO-5) Sen. Max Baucus Rep. Mike Conaway (TX-11) ​

    Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO-6) Sen. Jon Tester Rep. Kay Granger (TX-12) ​

    Rep. Denny Rehberg (MT-AL) Rep. Mac Thornberry (TX-13) ​

    Connecticut Rep. Ron Paul (TX-14) ​

    Rep. Joe Courtney Nebraska Rep. Silvestre Reyes (TX-16) ​

    Sen. Chuck Hagel Rep. Chet Edwards (TX-17) ​

    Florida Sen. Ben Nelson Rep. Randy Neugebauer (TX-19) ​

    Sen. Mel Martinez Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (NE-1) Rep. Lamar Smith (TX-21) ​

    Rep. Jeff Miller (FL-1) Rep. Lee Terry (NE-2) Rep. Nick Lampson (TX-22) ​

    Rep. Allen Boyd (FL-2) Rep. Adrian Smith (NE-3) Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (TX-23) ​

    Rep. Ander Crenshaw (FL-4) Rep. Kenny Marchant (TX-24) ​

    Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (FL-5) Nevada Rep. Mike Burgess (TX-26) ​

    Rep. Cliff Stearns (FL-6) Rep. Dean Heller (NV-2) Rep. Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) ​

    Rep. John Mica (FL-7) Rep. Jon Porter (NV-3) Rep. Henry Cuellar (TX-28) ​

    Rep. Ric Keller (FL-8) Rep. Gene Green (TX-29) ​

    Rep. Gus Bilirakis (FL-9) New Hampshire Rep. John Carter (TX-31) ​

    Rep. Adam Putnam (FL-12) Sen. Judd Gregg Rep. Pete Sessions (TX-32) ​

    Rep. Vern Buchanan (FL-13) Sen. John Sununu ​

    Rep. Connie Mack (FL-14) Rep. Paul Hodes (NH-2) Utah ​

    Rep. Dave Weldon (FL-15) Sen. Bob Bennett ​

    Rep. Tim Mahoney (FL-16) New Jersey Sen. Orrin Hatch ​

    Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL-18) Rep. Scott Garrett (NJ-5) Rep. Rob Bishop (UT-1) ​

    Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (FL-21) Rep. Jim Matheson (UT-2) ​

    Rep. Tom Feeney (FL-24) New Mexico Rep. Chris Cannon (UT-3) ​

    Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (FL-25) Sen. Pete Domenici ​

    Rep. Heather Wilson (NM-1) Virginia ​

    Georgia Rep. Steve Pearce (NM-2) Sen. Jim Webb ​

    Sen. Saxby Chambliss Rep. Rob Wittman (VA-1) ​

    Sen. Johnny Isakson New York Rep. Thelma Drake (VA-2) ​

    Rep. Jack Kingston (GA-1) Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY-20) Rep. Randy Forbes (VA-4) ​

    Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA-2) Rep. John McHugh (NY-23) Rep. Virgil Goode (VA-5) ​

    Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (GA-3) Rep. Michael Arcuri (NY-24) Rep. Bob Goodlatte (VA-6) ​

    Rep. Tom Price (GA-6) Rep. Jim Walsh (NY-25) Rep. Eric Cantor (VA-7) ​

    Rep. John Linder (GA-7) Rep. Tom Reynolds (NY-26) Rep. Rick Boucher (VA-9) ​

    Rep. Jim Marshall (GA-8) Rep. Brian Higgins (NY-27) Rep. Frank Wolf (VA-10) ​

    Rep. Nathan Deal (GA-9) Rep. Randy Kuhl (NY-29) Rep. Tom Davis (VA-11) ​

    Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10) ​

    Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA-11) North Carolina Washington ​

    Rep. John Barrow (GA-12) Sen. Richard Burr Rep. Brian Baird (WA-3) ​

    Sen. Elizabeth Dole Rep. Doc Hastings (WA-4) ​

    Idaho Rep. Walter Jones (NC-3) Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA-5) ​

    Sen. Larry Craig Rep. Virginia Foxx (NC-5) Rep. Dave Reichert (WA-8) ​

    Sen. Mike Crapo Rep. Howard Coble (NC-6) ​

    Rep. Bill Sali (ID-1) Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC-7) West Virginia ​

    Rep. Mike Simpson (ID-2) Rep. Robin Hayes (NC-8) Rep. Alan Mollohan (WV-1) ​

    Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-9) Rep. Shelley Capito (WV-2) ​

    Illinois Rep. Partick McHenry (NC-10) Rep. Nick Rahall (WV-3) ​

    Rep. Peter Roskam (IL-6) Rep. Heath Shuler (NC-11) ​

    Rep. Jerry Weller (IL-11) Wisconsin ​

    Rep. Jerry Costello (IL-12) North Dakota Sen. Russ Feingold ​

    Rep. Judy Biggert (IL-13) Rep. Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL) Rep. Paul Ryan (WI-1) ​

    Rep. Tim Johnson (IL-15) Rep. Ron Kind (WI-3) ​

    Rep. Don Manzullo (IL-16) Ohio Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (WI-5) ​

    Rep. John Shimkus (IL-19) Sen. George Voinovich Rep. Tom Petri (WI-6) ​

    Rep. Steve Chabot (OH-1) Rep. Steve Kagen (WI-8) ​

    Indiana Rep. Jean Schmidt (OH-2) ​

    Rep. Joe Donnelly (IN-2) Rep. Mike Turner (OH-3) Wyoming ​

    Rep. Mark Souder (IN-3) Rep. Jim Jordan (OH-4) Sen. Mike Enzi ​

    Rep. Steve Buyer (IN-4) Rep. Bob Latta (OH-5) Sen. John Barrasso ​

    Rep. Dan Burton (IN-5) Rep. Charlie Wilson (OH-6) Rep. Barbara Cubin (WY-AL) ​

    Rep. Mike Pence (IN-6) Rep. Dave Hobson (OH-7) ​

    Rep. Brad Ellsworth (IN-8) Rep. John Boehner (OH-8) ​

    Rep. Baron Hill (IN-9) Rep. Pat Tiberi (OH-12) ​

    Rep. Steve LaTourette (OH-14) ​

    Iowa Rep. Deborah Pryce (OH-15) ​

    Sen. Chuck Grassley Rep. Tim Ryan (OH-17) ​

    Rep. Leonard Boswell (IA-3) Rep. Zack Space (OH-18) ​

    Rep. Tom Latham (IA-4) ​

    Rep. Steve King (IA-5) Oklahoma ​

    Sen. Tom Coburn ​

    Kansas Sen. Jim Inhofe ​

    Sen. Sam Brownback Rep. John Sullivan (OK-1) ​

    Sen. Pat Roberts Rep. Dan Boren (OK-2) ​

    Rep. Jerry Moran (KS-1) Rep. Frank Lucas (OK-3) ​

    Rep. Nancy Boyda (KS-2) Rep. Tom Cole (OK-4) ​

    Rep. Todd Tiahrt (KS-4) Rep. Mary Fallin (OK-5) ​

  2. MbRodge

    MbRodge Monkey+++

    I hope this trend continues, but I'm skeptical.
  3. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    :eek::shock:Holy guacamole"I never would have believed that if i hadn't read it here.!!So Lord Sidias IS a benificent master after all????[beer]See I toll you guys they jes doin what's right for the country...( howcum rumsfelds dirt is in lord cheneys hole??? I dunno boss! you better git it outta dare,yes boss[lolol]...) Sorry "cool hand luke" is on amc...
  4. SeptemberMage

    SeptemberMage LaMOE Monkey

    Obviously Obama and Clinton aren't on that list. Today I was talking to my step dad, he's a hard-working conservative Christian and a Democrat. He's a gun owner, an NRA member, and a lifelong hunter.
    But no matter how anti-gun she is, he fully intends to vote for Hitlery Clinton. I just can't figure it out. Is uncle sugar's social security promise that enticing? what am I missing? [dunno]
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    You guys chastise Cheney like he was the devil incarnate. Better him as first chair than Bush. Too bad it didn't go down that way.
  6. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Just don't go bird hunting with him..."Sorry "G" I mistook your head for a grouse.
  7. NWPilgrim

    NWPilgrim Monkey++

    Pretty amazing. I see even some leftists from Oregon such as deFazio signed up. This is really odd; not just the strong conservatives, but the weak kneed ones like our Gordon Smith as well as leftist as deFazio. Hmmmm. I like it but it is strange.

    SeptemberMage, you can't try to figure out loyal Democrats by the issues or candidates. Conservative tend to focus on issues and character regarless of party. The democrats in my family are so because of feelings.

    Being a Democrat makes them feel generous, caring and sophisticated. And many are Democrats because their parents were and it is more of an emotional loyalty to that family tradition then it is about current issues or candidates. My mom is pretty conservative yet is a proud and staunch Democrat because her parents were. Simple as that for her.
  8. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Cheney is reported to own one of the largest private collections of class lll weapons in the States.
  9. MbRodge

    MbRodge Monkey+++

    This country started going to sh*t the day people started thinking it was one party or the other. Republican or Democrat. The parties claim to be different and despise the opposition yet every session of congress they work together to pass each other's bills in a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" kind of way. Every election we vote based on the "lesser of two evils" as if that is normal and never realize we're really just electing one of two wings of the same FN' party for all intents and purposes.
  10. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Does everybody realize the ramifications if the Supreme Court says that the federal .gov actually cannot infringe the rights to keep and bear arms? Think about all the people that have gone to jail and lost their rights to own a firearm since 1934. This could be huge.
  11. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Bingo...[beer] someone got it!
  12. S&P

    S&P E&E w/AR

    Equally important are the ramifications if the SCOTUS finds in favor of DC. This is a landmark case and if we lose we are truly screwed.
  13. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    wager big you could lose big....
  14. S&P

    S&P E&E w/AR

    Indeed, some friends of mine wish this had not been brought to the Court due to fear of losing. I'd just as soon get this over with now.
  15. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Whoever you vote for the government still wins..[booze]
  16. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    I figure that the SCOTUS will find in favor of DC. RP will not be a president. So the court system has failed, the soapbox has failed, and the vote box has failed. There is only one way to restore freedom IMHO to this country, and that is to pass around the ammo.

  17. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I'ld still rather hunt with Dick (Cheaney) than ride with Ted (Kennedy).:shock:

    OGM, I tend to fear you are correct, though I also fear there are far to few who even acknowledge there IS a problem much less the severity of it to pick up that box to any effect.
  18. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    GOA Files Blockbuster Brief Before The U.S. Supreme Court!
    -- Pratt hits the airwaves, selling the pro-gun position in the court
    of public opinion

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408

    Tuesday, February 12, 2008

    Gun Owners of America filed its brief yesterday before the U.S.
    Supreme Court in defense of Dick Anthony Heller, who was denied the
    right to own a gun in the nation's capital as a result of the
    draconian gun ban which exists there.

    In this hard-hitting brief, GOA takes aim at the weak arguments put
    forth by both the DC government and the Bush Administration. But
    more than that, GOA examines the favorable text and context of the
    Second Amendment in great detail, while also documenting the pro-gun
    history that formed the backdrop of its inclusion into the Bill of

    The GOA brief even presents the greatest reason for the right to keep
    and bear arms, stating that "the Second Amendment right is to be
    exercised as a last resort to guard against tyranny."

    GOA's Executive Director, Larry Pratt, has hit the airwaves recently,
    appearing on many talk shows and in newspapers to differentiate the
    GOA approach from the sullied road the President has taken. Pratt,
    along with other GOA spokesmen, has argued that the "bomb" which
    Bush's Solicitor General dropped last month (when he submitted his
    brief) would destroy the Second Amendment.

    After all, the Bush administration's approach is that any and all
    guns can be controlled or banned if a federal court finds that to be

    The GOA approach differs from many of the briefs that are being
    submitted to the high Court. For example, one brief which is being
    submitted by several legislators highlights Congress' position on the
    Second Amendment over the years. This can be a useful approach, to
    be sure.

    But while the congressional brief concedes that the DC Council may
    have gone too far, it also says it's appropriate for the legislative
    branch to pass restrictions upon our Second Amendment rights -- a
    stance which is, in principle, not too different from the one the
    U.S. Solicitor General has filed.

    That's where the GOA brief draws a "bright line" in the sand by
    repeating the amendment's wording "shall not be infringed" over and
    over again. For example, our brief states:

    [T]he argument that "the right of the people" is subject to
    reasonable regulation and restriction tramples on the very words of
    the Second Amendment, reading the phrase -- "shall not be
    -- as if it read "shall be subject only to reasonable regulation to
    achieve public safety."

    The GOA brief can be read online at
    http://www.gunowners.org/fs0802.pdf on the GOA website. Several
    pro-gun groups joined GOA, including Gun Owners Foundation, Gun
    Owners of California, Maryland Shall Issue, Inc., Virginia Citizens
    Defense League, among others.

    You will remember that last month, GOA alerted you to Rep. Virgil
    Goode's efforts to get President Bush to pull his brief before the
    Court. Thanks to your efforts, Rep. Goode has almost 50
    congressional signatories on his letter. While the letter has
    already been sent to the President, Goode continues to solicit even
    more signatories and is sending those names to Bush as well. (GOA
    will provide you further updates and a list of the congressman who
    have cosigned the letter in an upcoming alert.)

    Gun Owners of America is committing a significant portion of our
    available resources as we are fighting this battle in the courts, in
    the Congress and in the media.

    If you would like to help do your part in covering the tremendous
    costs associated with this effort, please go to
    http://www.gunowners.com/heller.htm to make a tax-deductible
    contribution. Thank you so much.</pre>
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    If I understand all I know, SCOTUS is going to review the arguments from a very narrow angle. Specifically, the focus will be on the constitutionality of restricting /proscribing ownership (within the home) it won't address the rest of the idiotic rules imposed by DC, necessarily. Meaning that they may still (unless challenged later or the scope of review is broadened) require permits to buy, carry, and transport outside of the home.

    Still and all, the amicus curiae briefs filed by all sorts of organizations cannot hurt, and may indeed persuade SCOTUS to enlarge the scope and ruling.
  20. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    And there lies the true problem!!!!! IMHO it is not .gov that is problem they are running the course of any government. But from time to time the people need to be willing to put the government back on the right course by what ever means nesesary. If the people are not willing to do so then .gov will continue running it's course to dictatorship.

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