Did Hitler escape Germany?

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by Minuteman, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I love conspiracy theory. It is fun to ponder what if's. I stumbled across this today. I'm going to have to get the book. Interesting points but I think the main drawback would be Hitlers narcissistic and megalomaniac nature. I can't see him living out his days in anonymity in the Argentine mountains.

    In 2009, Corsi pointed out, Nicholas Bellatoni, the Connecticut state archaeologist, was allowed by the Russian Federation State Archive in Moscow to examine skull fragments the Russians have claimed for decades are proof Hitler committed suicide.

    Bellatoni’s startling findings prompted Corsi to investigate further.

    “What caused me to question Hitler’s suicide was Bellatoni’s DNA analysis that proved conclusively the skull fragments belonged not to Hitler, but to a 40-year-old woman unrelated to Eva Braun,” Corsi said.

    Examining declassified FBI and U.S. military intelligence files, Corsi makes a compelling case that U.S. investigators suspected from the beginning Hitler had escaped. For political purposes, the evidence indicates, they were willing to go along with the cover story that in the final days of World War II, Hitler married his mistress, Eva Braun, and the two took their lives in a joint-suicide ritual just before the Soviet army entered Berlin.

    But the truth is, no one actually saw Hitler commit suicide. There are no photographs documenting a joint suicide of Hitler and Eva Braun, and the bodies of the two were never recovered or preserved for positive identification.

    In “Hunting Hitler,” Corsi posits Hitler made his way to Argentina with the help of U.S. intelligence agents that had been secretly working with the Nazis since 1943. Allen Dulles, then an agent of the Office of Strategic Services, or OSS, the predecessor agency to the CIA, was communicating secretly with top Nazis from his office in Bern, Switzerland, Corsi said.

    Corsi brings to light many troubling questions, including:

    • Why were the Americans unable to obtain physical evidence of Hitler’s remains after the Russians absconded with his body?
    • Why did both Stalin and Eisenhower doubt Hitler’s demise?
    • Why did nobody in Hitler’s bunker hear any shots fired?
    • Did U.S. intelligence agents in Europe, including the OSS and Allen Dulles (who later headed the CIA under President Eisenhower), aid Hitler’s escape, as they did with so many other Nazis?
    • Argentinean media reported Hitler arrived in the country and it continued to report his presence. Why have the findings not made it to the US?

    Hidden away in the National Archives, Corsi found a U.S. naval intelligence report written July 18, 1945, by the Naval Attaché in Buenos Aires who notified Washington there was reason to believe U-530 had landed Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun in the south of Argentina before the submarine journeyed on to surrender at Mar del Plata.

    Corsi had newspaper reports translated of Hitler and Braun being welcomed by wealthy Nazi sympathizers among Argentina’s large German community. The Germans there had constructed a mansion hidden away in the dense mountain forests of Bariloche to provide the Nazi führer with comfort and security in his elder years.

    Read more at Shocking evidence Hitler escaped Germany
  2. Snake_Doctor

    Snake_Doctor Call me Snake...

    Hitler could never stay out of the spotlight if had escaped. Also the whole dousing the bodies in gasoline thing wouldn't have done that much damage to them. I covered this in a story I wrote many yeats ago. One of my readers at the time was a funeral director and it made her sit up and notice, JMHO.
  3. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    He "excaped".....

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  4. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    Hitler had a sex change operation to make him like Eva. Eva had a sex change operation to make her like Adolf. Nobody ever suspected a thing...

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  5. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Kinda like it appears has happened to our current squatters in the Whitehouse gunbunny??:oops: sorry that wasn’t PC.
  6. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    I know this is the Tin Foil Hat Lounge, where reality is met with extreme skepticism, but for any true history buffs, the series "The World at War," does a pretty good job of laying to rest doubts of Hitler's demise in the bunker. Admittedly, there are still enough strange elements to his story to provide plenty of fodder for conspiracy theories, but the series does a fairly thorough examination of the question. The series is presented by A&E, and was produced in 1973, when many principle players were still alive. Volume 8 of the series focuses on Hitler's death. Hitler's private secretary, who heard the shot and saw the body, is interviewed; as are other individuals who were also in the bunker at the time, including the body guard who helped to move and incinerate the body. A couple of British pathologists, who participated in the first fact finding mission concerning Hitler, are interviewed; and are perfectly satisfied; as are members of a Soviet team who are also interviewed.

    This doesn't diminish from the fact that many major players of the Nazi movement did indeed escape to South America through the services of the Odessa organization; an organization who's existence is no longer doubted. Had Hitler been sane, I have no doubt that he would have joined them.
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  7. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Tuli, that fits with what I've read over the years.
  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Your entire reality is a lie [alien]
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  9. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Then you are imaginary, so why should I listen to you?:lol:
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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Wake up, Neo...

    The Matrix has you.
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  11. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Prove you are more than just a voice in my head, that THINKS it is awake.
  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I imagine that right now you feel a bit like Alice, tumbling down the rabbit hole?

    MORPHEUS: Let me tell you why you are here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. There's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

    NEO: The Matrix?

    MORPHEUS: Do you want to know what it is?

    Neo nods.

    MORPHEUS: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

    NEO: What truth?

    MORPHEUS: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.
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  13. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Um..."have a nice time storming the castle"[alllies][finger]
  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    MORPHEUS: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

    I won't be storming any castle.
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  15. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    The pain in my knees is real. "I ache, therefore I am." ;)
  16. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    " I think, therefore I am."
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  17. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Just as the code has instructed you to think. The next line of code will be
  18. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    It is interesting (to me anyway) that Decartes, some four-hundred and fifty years ago, was asking himself questions worthy of a modern science fiction movie script - "Is this all an illusion?" "How can I be sure that my reality is real?"

    Voila! "If I can doubt my own existence, then my mind, at least, must be real." "I think, therefore I am."

    For his time, he was an amazing intellect.

    My apologies for diverging even farther from the Original Post.
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  19. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Who was that said " There is nothing new"??
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  20. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    Back closer to the Original Post, the question of the demise of Nazi Party's Martin Bormann is a mystery comparable to that of Hitler's.

    Quite a few people have come forward with first hand knowledge of Bormann in Latin America, post war. There is even an account of his death, of stomach cancer in 1959; and of Joseph Mengele coming to treat him prior to his death. He was supposedly buried in Paraguay, and then his skeleton was moved back to Berlin, and buried near where he was supposedly killed and buried during the war. Supposedly, clay found inside the skull matches no dirt in or around Berlin, but does match that of Ita, Paraguay, where was alleged to have been initially buried. It is alleged that his body was smuggled back to Berlin to protect the Odessa organization from Nazi hunters, who were relentlessly pursuing Bormann. I believe the "Mysteries at the Museum" series did a story on him.

    Martin Bormann has a Stomachache - Graeme Wood - The Atlantic
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